Bots in quick play MEGATHREAD - videos, screenshots and replays

[Kernist]

You know it, the feeling when you lose 2 games in a row, jump into another game in quick play and then you see enemies walking towards you, not using any abilities. If you refuse to attack, they will use basic attack on you after 2 seconds of circling around you and if you are close to dying they will start missing all of their shots, meanwhile bots on your team (sometimes they are real people suffering with you) are superior.

This is not a game, this is a social experiment about how many people are stupid and will not realize it (quite a lot judging by posts about how there are no bots) and about if players will be ok with it and keep playing. I am not a lab rat. If I click to play PvP, I want PvP, not veilded PvE so I can feel better after few lost games.

This should be illegal to be honest, or at least Steam should ban games that are lying to their players, but well, what can you expect from China.

Here are some videos with proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFYcG0hK7f4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjAljBFL0VY
Here are some replays if you want to watch yourself:
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Thanks to "notel0ck" and "I'm in immense pain" for links and replays.

Edit 20/12/2024
Replay ID: 5057692130
This is big, after 3 lost game I managed to be the only human in the whole game. You can see it by the behavior and names of the rest. Also, I made like 15 prompts asking anyone to type anything. Nobody did.

I already suspected bots are always aiming for 2-2-2 composition, this game confirmed it. Another thing is if I was the only player in whole game it confirms without a doubt it is Netease who stands behind the bots.

I realized it quickly I play with bots so I didn't play - basically let my team play 5v6. it is impossible to lose. If you analyze objective number 2, both bots play evenly, but enemy won objective because of 6v5 advantage. However, if you look at objective 3, you see my team plays godly and enemy dumbs down, it was not even a contest. It is rigged so you WILL win.

Additional info: Game was searching for match like 20 seconds, what is a lot for this game. It's very possible it had trouble to find anyone else with lose streak, that's why I ended alone in my team. I regret I didn't swap hero to see if bots will also switch to aim for composition 2-2-2.

Update: I screenshotted my entire available history and marked bot games:
https://ibb.co/b3pqQVN
https://ibb.co/LnKqShq
https://ibb.co/7GBHndR
https://ibb.co/qBVXPq8
https://ibb.co/mtLmCrq
https://ibb.co/W52G2c7
https://ibb.co/540RnJN

Replays:

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How do I know these were bot games - if you click on the match and try to inspect profile of a bot, it says you can't. As you see, all bot matches occurred after lost games, almost all took 2-3 lost matches, however at the end I needed only 1 lost match for it to occur.

Edit 22/12/2024
Thanks to the user "Nyattery Acid" it is confirmed without a doubt that bots faced in qp are from NetEase itself and not outside source. Post marked as an answer to this thread.

Edit 28/12/2024
Below you can see a difference between a message you get while trying to inspect a bot (first link) and a message you get when trying to inspect a real player who set his account to private (second link).

https://ibb.co/n1ssrt5
https://i.postimg.cc/pdsnYD55/20241226005314-1.jpg

Edit 12/01/2025
If someone is still on the fence (for whatever reason) about existence of bots thanks to the user "Johan" I learned that on the website tracker(dot)gg instead of a name bots are described just as a "BOT". Example below.

https://ibb.co/zGr2HcY

[Kernist]

Another update.

[Kernist]

Originally posted by Ｔｅｎｓｅｎｕｍａ:

Definitely killing my vibe for the game that's for sure.

I just don't like when someone makes an idiot out of me.

[Trip]

Originally posted by Kernist:

Originally posted by Trip:

OK, not this is actually EXTREMLY interesting and worth a watch, one of my game codes that stood out. Don't make fun of my game play cuz I know Im terrible. I had this one after a two game loss streak

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Check out ShawDris Now this actually looks very close to the 'bot behavior' but look at the stats it kicks out. 7K damage, 8K blocked and 15K healing

JesseniT has similar name format but 25 kills and 22K damage blocked.

JosettTi has 32 kills and 14K damage.

This match is interest. And please don't watch it and tell me how aweful I am.

I watched all of the red team carefully, they are all bots, every single on them had a crosshair jump or was running towards the wall.

Blue team played bad, that's why bots could gather decent stats. Now I am also interested if it is possible to lose to this bots.

I figured you would come back dismissive over this with a 'played bad' response without even thinking twice. Compare these two codes.

5024351331 on 12/15 - There are 3 bots with absolutely horrible accuracy that often go long amounts of time without shooting or shooting into walls ignoring players. This is one of the first codes I watched and made me think this was people screwing around having a laugh throwing games.

1091747351 on 12/18 - In spite of having the same name format and performing some of the same types of movements and unusual cooldown use, these bots play much different then the other example. The shoot allot and have excellent accuracy. They Peni, JesenniT, especially is accurate with her web . The scarlet witch JosettTi ends the game with a 70% accuracy and 14 thousand damage. Shawdris as Loki heals for 15K. When he steals the venom ult, he actually uses it to get a kill. The differences are night and day.


You would have seen this could actually be a massive data point if you didn't dismiss it out of hand as 'blue-team played bad" all without comparing the two. What if it is is an indicator that there might be more then one difficuntly of the "hidden" AI at work here. Also, if this was supposed to be an easy win after my two losses then something sure went wrong.

[BAEBLADE]

Originally posted by Xenomorph - Drone:

Is it true that this game putting bots in the matches?
Why even. The game have more than enough regular players that can fill the lobby in seconds, why even implementing bots in there? lol
Maybe they're here till lvl10?

player retention. Netease is known for it look it up. its so you get a free win and dont rage quit

[Kernist]

Originally posted by Trip:

Originally posted by Kernist:

I watched all of the red team carefully, they are all bots, every single on them had a crosshair jump or was running towards the wall.

Blue team played bad, that's why bots could gather decent stats. Now I am also interested if it is possible to lose to this bots.

I figured you would come back dismissive over this with a 'played bad' response without even thinking twice. Compare these two codes.

5024351331 on 12/15 - There are 3 bots with absolutely horrible accuracy that often go long amounts of time without shooting or shooting into walls ignoring players. This is one of the first codes I watched and made me think this was people screwing around having a laugh throwing games.

1091747351 on 12/18 - In spite of having the same name format and performing some of the same types of movements and unusual cooldown use, these bots play much different then the other example. The shoot allot and have excellent accuracy. They Peni, JesenniT, especially is accurate with her web . The scarlet witch JosettTi ends the game with a 70% accuracy and 14 thousand damage. Shawdris as Loki heals for 15K. When he steals the venom ult, he actually uses it to get a kill. The differences are night and day.


You would have seen this could actually be a massive data point if you didn't dismiss it out of hand as 'blue-team played bad" all without comparing the two. What if it is is an indicator that there might be more then one difficuntly of the "hidden" AI at work here. Also, if this was supposed to be an easy win after my two losses then something sure went wrong.

I didn't dismiss it, I just observed how badly blue team played, I don't even know what did you play but you are right, comparing my own replays I also noticed difference of difficulty between various bot groups.

Also like I noted in the edited first post, behavior of bots change during a match, so it is still an "easy win" because I suspect that if you struggle and start losing bots on your team play better while bots on enemy team get weaker. I let my bots play 5v6 and they barely won first round, lost 2nd round and completely stomped enemy on 3rd round.

[Trip]

Originally posted by Kernist:

Originally posted by Trip:

I figured you would come back dismissive over this with a 'played bad' response without even thinking twice. Compare these two codes.

5024351331 on 12/15 - There are 3 bots with absolutely horrible accuracy that often go long amounts of time without shooting or shooting into walls ignoring players. This is one of the first codes I watched and made me think this was people screwing around having a laugh throwing games.

1091747351 on 12/18 - In spite of having the same name format and performing some of the same types of movements and unusual cooldown use, these bots play much different then the other example. The shoot allot and have excellent accuracy. They Peni, JesenniT, especially is accurate with her web . The scarlet witch JosettTi ends the game with a 70% accuracy and 14 thousand damage. Shawdris as Loki heals for 15K. When he steals the venom ult, he actually uses it to get a kill. The differences are night and day.


You would have seen this could actually be a massive data point if you didn't dismiss it out of hand as 'blue-team played bad" all without comparing the two. What if it is is an indicator that there might be more then one difficuntly of the "hidden" AI at work here. Also, if this was supposed to be an easy win after my two losses then something sure went wrong.

I didn't dismiss it, I just observed how badly blue team played, I don't even know what did you play but you are right, comparing my own replays I also noticed difference of difficulty between various bot groups.

Also like I noted in the edited first post, behavior of bots change during a match, so it is still an "easy win" because I suspect that if you struggle and start losing bots on your team play better while bots on enemy team get weaker. I let my bots play 5v6 and they barely won first round, lost 2nd round and completely stomped enemy on 3rd round.

And I also was actually thinking about some kind of adaptive AI based off of your hidden (quickplay) MMR. I also got to thinking about how many people are having unreal crashes and network disconnects, to the point of even getting banned.

What if these bots appear to fill in matches because so many people have dropped that otherwise the lobby would be dumped back to the que. This actually happens to my 5 stack in overwatch from time to time when it gets late and we are waiting a long que. Match countdown starts, but then I guess enough of the other team times out or disconnects it drops our back into the que, often before the lobby even goes live.

Pure speculation, of course.

[Kernist]

Originally posted by Trip:

Originally posted by Kernist:

I didn't dismiss it, I just observed how badly blue team played, I don't even know what did you play but you are right, comparing my own replays I also noticed difference of difficulty between various bot groups.

Also like I noted in the edited first post, behavior of bots change during a match, so it is still an "easy win" because I suspect that if you struggle and start losing bots on your team play better while bots on enemy team get weaker. I let my bots play 5v6 and they barely won first round, lost 2nd round and completely stomped enemy on 3rd round.

And I also was actually thinking about some kind of adaptive AI based off of your hidden (quickplay) MMR. I also got to thinking about how many people are having unreal crashes and network disconnects, to the point of even getting banned.

What if these bots appear to fill in matches because so many people have dropped that otherwise the lobby would be dumped back to the que. This actually happens to my 5 stack in overwatch from time to time when it gets late and we are waiting a long que. Match countdown starts, but then I guess enough of the other team times out or disconnects it drops our back into the que, often before the lobby even goes live.

Pure speculation, of course.

Not possible. Whole party crashing and always after your lost match? It would be too big of a coincidence.

[TheSwarmLord36]

I get an unreal amount of thank you messages for reporting cheaters too. How much you want to bet each match only has 3 players per team and the rest is AI set to either force wins or losses.

[Ϩ Tython]

Honestly, I think people are just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrible. It happens a lot with popular games. I'm getting a lot of games in ranked where people are just happy observers. Can't do much about it except rank up.

[Kernist]

Originally posted by Ϩ Tython:

Honestly, I think people are just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrible. It happens a lot with popular games. I'm getting a lot of games in ranked where people are just happy observers. Can't do much about it except rank up.

Did you watch video links or any of the replays I posted? These are bots, not people.

[Reborn]

Not only the bots game got full of cheaters too, It wasn’t like that the first few days. At this point I’m thinking about at even going back to Overwatch lol

[「J 7」]

Originally posted by Reborn:

Not only the bots game got full of cheaters too, It wasn’t like that the first few days. At this point I’m thinking about at even going back to Overwatch lol

you're not getting any clown points broski, try harder with the rage bait lmao

[Trip]

Originally posted by Kernist:

Originally posted by Trip:

And I also was actually thinking about some kind of adaptive AI based off of your hidden (quickplay) MMR. I also got to thinking about how many people are having unreal crashes and network disconnects, to the point of even getting banned.

What if these bots appear to fill in matches because so many people have dropped that otherwise the lobby would be dumped back to the que. This actually happens to my 5 stack in overwatch from time to time when it gets late and we are waiting a long que. Match countdown starts, but then I guess enough of the other team times out or disconnects it drops our back into the que, often before the lobby even goes live.

Pure speculation, of course.

Not possible. Whole party crashing and always after your lost match? It would be too big of a coincidence.

What if we find a code where you have a bot is on the winning team? We should probably take a look at the teammates in games you win 2 times in a row. If they want to give you an easy win, maybe the will put an aim bot AI into a game to make you win your two matches before letting you loose two matches before making it so you win two matches again?

[Hanalyd]

Let's be honest...
Everyone plays this because it's has Marvel super heroes.
If this game didn't have the license for it and it would have random unknown characters NO ONE would play this game... period...

[Trip]

OK so, a quick search on the internet shows that people are already selling marvel accounts. On one website a single person has 144 accounts listed. ONE person. They didn't level those up by hand.

Net ease has 100% failed to prevent this, we ARE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ playing bots non stop in matches!

EDIT

Here is a match in my history with bots on both teams, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hell. 1080103353