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Kernist 18. Dez. 2024 um 9:34
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Bots in quick play MEGATHREAD - videos, screenshots and replays
You know it, the feeling when you lose 2 games in a row, jump into another game in quick play and then you see enemies walking towards you, not using any abilities. If you refuse to attack, they will use basic attack on you after 2 seconds of circling around you and if you are close to dying they will start missing all of their shots, meanwhile bots on your team (sometimes they are real people suffering with you) are superior.

This is not a game, this is a social experiment about how many people are stupid and will not realize it (quite a lot judging by posts about how there are no bots) and about if players will be ok with it and keep playing. I am not a lab rat. If I click to play PvP, I want PvP, not veilded PvE so I can feel better after few lost games.

This should be illegal to be honest, or at least Steam should ban games that are lying to their players, but well, what can you expect from China.

Here are some videos with proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFYcG0hK7f4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjAljBFL0VY
Here are some replays if you want to watch yourself:
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Thanks to "notel0ck" and "I'm in immense pain" for links and replays.

Edit 20/12/2024
Replay ID: 5057692130
This is big, after 3 lost game I managed to be the only human in the whole game. You can see it by the behavior and names of the rest. Also, I made like 15 prompts asking anyone to type anything. Nobody did.

I already suspected bots are always aiming for 2-2-2 composition, this game confirmed it. Another thing is if I was the only player in whole game it confirms without a doubt it is Netease who stands behind the bots.

I realized it quickly I play with bots so I didn't play - basically let my team play 5v6. it is impossible to lose. If you analyze objective number 2, both bots play evenly, but enemy won objective because of 6v5 advantage. However, if you look at objective 3, you see my team plays godly and enemy dumbs down, it was not even a contest. It is rigged so you WILL win.

Additional info: Game was searching for match like 20 seconds, what is a lot for this game. It's very possible it had trouble to find anyone else with lose streak, that's why I ended alone in my team. I regret I didn't swap hero to see if bots will also switch to aim for composition 2-2-2.

Update: I screenshotted my entire available history and marked bot games:
https://ibb.co/b3pqQVN
https://ibb.co/LnKqShq
https://ibb.co/7GBHndR
https://ibb.co/qBVXPq8
https://ibb.co/mtLmCrq
https://ibb.co/W52G2c7
https://ibb.co/540RnJN

Replays:

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How do I know these were bot games - if you click on the match and try to inspect profile of a bot, it says you can't. As you see, all bot matches occurred after lost games, almost all took 2-3 lost matches, however at the end I needed only 1 lost match for it to occur.

Edit 22/12/2024
Thanks to the user "Nyattery Acid" it is confirmed without a doubt that bots faced in qp are from NetEase itself and not outside source. Post marked as an answer to this thread.

Edit 28/12/2024
Below you can see a difference between a message you get while trying to inspect a bot (first link) and a message you get when trying to inspect a real player who set his account to private (second link).

https://ibb.co/n1ssrt5
https://i.postimg.cc/pdsnYD55/20241226005314-1.jpg

Edit 12/01/2025
If someone is still on the fence (for whatever reason) about existence of bots thanks to the user "Johan" I learned that on the website tracker(dot)gg instead of a name bots are described just as a "BOT". Example below.

https://ibb.co/zGr2HcY
Zuletzt bearbeitet von Kernist; 11. Jan. um 16:47
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nyattery Acid:
I made my own thread about this before seeing this, so posting here as well. I originally edited these images for Reddit but the subreddit mods shot my findings down within seconds, so you'll have to forgive me for all the purple boxes.

https://i.postimg.cc/jd92vNLN/1.jpg - a game I got into after losing 2 games, all bots on enemy, all private, and one important name, Ale.

https://i.postimg.cc/fLBTdSGV/2.jpg - this is the 3 open profiles on my team having 2 losses before this game.

https://i.postimg.cc/MKhZ1SFm/3.jpg and here's the result of me attempting to search "Ale," which turned up a completly unrelated person with no time on Hawkeye or Black Panther and no games in history for a whole 3 hours before our game.

This last thing makes me certain that the developers put these bots in. A farm bot set up by an outside party would not have bypassed name duplication prevention.

Since I'm put in a spot as the "answer" to the topic, I have to share the replay in question: 5095564775 You can see the Ale in this game with a private profile is NOT the Ale who's searchable normally.
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Skunk 18. Dez. 2024 um 9:42 
It's probably causing a lot of people to quit
waiting for trip to show up and cope, any second now....
what I dont get about that whole thing is that the easy bots you can willingly queue into are better than those used in quickplay...
Zuletzt bearbeitet von NeoSono; 18. Dez. 2024 um 9:45
Brandon 18. Dez. 2024 um 9:47 
i dont see any bots
I haven't seen any bots in ranked. I don't know if they're in qp, but I don't care.
I don't do bad enough to face bots.
Kernist 18. Dez. 2024 um 9:56 
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Ok, so far all people claiming that there are no bots are from USA, I wonder if this is a result of different server or mental state of this country. Would gladly confirm it with others from USA if they see bots or not.
Zuletzt bearbeitet von Kernist; 18. Dez. 2024 um 9:56
Is it true that this game putting bots in the matches?
Why even. The game have more than enough regular players that can fill the lobby in seconds, why even implementing bots in there? lol
Maybe they're here till lvl10?
slay 18. Dez. 2024 um 10:01 
I play ranked so no
Kernist 18. Dez. 2024 um 10:01 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xenomorph - Drone:
Is it true that this game putting bots in the matches?
Why even. The game have more than enough regular players that can fill the lobby in seconds, why even implementing bots in there? lol
Maybe they're here till lvl10?
No, I have something around lvl 20. As for why - they don't want you to quit. If you start losing 4,5 matches in a row there is a big chance you will get angry and quit. By giving you bot match after 2 lost games they calm you down, you feel better about yourself and keep playing. I am 90% sure that's the goal.
Kernist 18. Dez. 2024 um 10:02 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von slay:
I play ranked so no
Great, I know there are no bots in ranked, that's why we are talking about quick play specifically.
slay 18. Dez. 2024 um 10:03 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kernist:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von slay:
I play ranked so no
Great, I know there are no bots in ranked, that's why we are talking about quick play specifically.
Ok but why would you play that when ranked exists? You’re going to be playing with bots or human bots..
Zuletzt bearbeitet von slay; 18. Dez. 2024 um 10:04
Kernist 18. Dez. 2024 um 10:05 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von slay:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kernist:
Great, I know there are no bots in ranked, that's why we are talking about quick play specifically.
Ok but why would you play that when ranked exists? You’re going to be playing with bots or human bots..
No, it is to chill and play non-meta heroes knowing you have nothing to gain/lose, stress free.
Percival 18. Dez. 2024 um 10:07 
i look at it like a bandaid fix for how frustrating the game is by design.

ultra addictive overwatch clone with marvel characters and cool graphics and music, this immediately makes kids want to play it, to play as their favourite MCU characters

kids jump in, go up against PC tryhards and sweats with no job llike me who wipe their entire backline with captain america or one of the many sweaty jeff mains there are out there ready to do what they do best, and this is immensely frustrating as an experience for a kid lmao. I've been there before, hyper excited to play a blockbuster rental and it's been hard as nails. my first forays into competitive multipalyer gaming as a child were harrowing to say the least. the older kids dominate.

they just probably dont kids to ragequit. kids are gonna be their main customers on this. their parents, i should say.

a lot of people who are a bit older keep playing after they lose... that whole 'just one more game, we can't go out on a loss' thing that ends up going on until 3am.... so the decision to try to avoid people ragequitting seems aimed at kids to me.

i find it annoying. keep punishing me, game, until i improve. I learn literally nothing if the game puts itself on easy mode everytime i lose on it
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