Venom needs buff

[Necrosmos]

He barely does any damage, and trying to take out supports is impossible cuz they just self heal

[Lanceps]

Ehhhh only against shark in fin-mode is he kinda caught lacking.

He is incredibly tanky.
He can engage+leave anytime or anywhere he wants
He has area knockup+dmg and an area slow+dmg
His ult does alot of dmg+gives him huge amounts of temp hp.

If he wasn't so good at disrupting, diving, or stalling... then maybe he could get some broken offense buffs, but he already does alot of dmg if you hit some headshots. You likely won't be capable of killing someone who is being actually healed unless you aim perfectly, but you are a tank so it's to be expected.

Have you seen Capt. America? He does much less damage but even then he can still be impactful (though he can be pretty difficult be useful with compared to other tanks).

[Tore]

Originally posted by Lanceps:

Ehhhh only against shark in fin-mode is he kinda caught lacking.

He is incredibly tanky.
He can engage+leave anytime or anywhere he wants
He has area knockup+dmg and an area slow+dmg
His ult does alot of dmg+gives him huge amounts of temp hp.

If he wasn't so good at disrupting, diving, or stalling... then maybe he could get some broken offense buffs, but he already does alot of dmg if you hit some headshots. You likely won't be capable of killing someone who is being actually healed unless you aim perfectly, but you are a tank so it's to be expected.

Have you seen Capt. America? He does much less damage but even then he can still be impactful (though he can be pretty difficult be useful with compared to other tanks).

Cap needs a buff more for sure.

Venom Ult needs to be changed so it can actually kill targets rather than only stealing half of their hp. I think that would be enough to make him feel alot better.

[Rafein]

Venom ult does not do much damage. It's more just another knock up/used to buy time to hit his shield again

[VillianByNecessity]

Originally posted by Tore:

Originally posted by Lanceps:

Ehhhh only against shark in fin-mode is he kinda caught lacking.

He is incredibly tanky.
He can engage+leave anytime or anywhere he wants
He has area knockup+dmg and an area slow+dmg
His ult does alot of dmg+gives him huge amounts of temp hp.

If he wasn't so good at disrupting, diving, or stalling... then maybe he could get some broken offense buffs, but he already does alot of dmg if you hit some headshots. You likely won't be capable of killing someone who is being actually healed unless you aim perfectly, but you are a tank so it's to be expected.

Have you seen Capt. America? He does much less damage but even then he can still be impactful (though he can be pretty difficult be useful with compared to other tanks).

Cap needs a buff more for sure.

Venom Ult needs to be changed so it can actually kill targets rather than only stealing half of their hp. I think that would be enough to make him feel alot better.

No Venom does not need a one shot mechanic with his ult. He is a tank. He does not need to do ridiculous damage on top of his tankiness.

[Tore]

Originally posted by UsuallyLost:

Originally posted by Tore:

Cap needs a buff more for sure.

Venom Ult needs to be changed so it can actually kill targets rather than only stealing half of their hp. I think that would be enough to make him feel alot better.

No Venom does not need a one shot mechanic with his ult. He is a tank. He does not need to do ridiculous damage on top of his tankiness.

It's not a one shot mechanic? I have absolutely no idea how or where you got that idea from?

I'm talking about making his Ult do real dmg not just %hp. You can't get a kill with Venom Ult right now, at all, so what I'm saying is at least give it the ability to do dmg so it can get kills on low hp targets.

[VillianByNecessity]

Originally posted by Tore:

Originally posted by UsuallyLost:

No Venom does not need a one shot mechanic with his ult. He is a tank. He does not need to do ridiculous damage on top of his tankiness.

It's not a one shot mechanic? I have absolutely no idea how or where you got that idea from?

I'm talking about making his Ult do real dmg not just %hp. You can't get a kill with Venom Ult right now, at all, so what I'm saying is at least give it the ability to do dmg so it can get kills on low hp targets.

My apologies then I misunderstood what you meant by the ult damage.

[DeathShark]

bruh, just look up how to play venom at a pro level, and use it in ur games.. venom is actually crazy if you use him correctly

[Roland's 2nd]

Originally posted by Tore:

You can't get a kill with Venom Ult right now, at all,

Literally false.
I get a kill with it every so often and even did so earlier tonight. (and I don't even play him all like that)

[☭Rosa]

you are playing venom wrong.
he is not a frontliner.

[im lazy]

Originally posted by Tore:

Originally posted by UsuallyLost:

No Venom does not need a one shot mechanic with his ult. He is a tank. He does not need to do ridiculous damage on top of his tankiness.

It's not a one shot mechanic? I have absolutely no idea how or where you got that idea from?

I'm talking about making his Ult do real dmg not just %hp. You can't get a kill with Venom Ult right now, at all, so what I'm saying is at least give it the ability to do dmg so it can get kills on low hp targets.

No. It can kill, because it does x amount of damage + a % of the target's MAX health. If a target has 300 health, lets say it does half their max as well, it'd do 200 damage no matter what health they have.

[IndianaJones]

IMHO skill issue. He's not DPS, he's role is not to get most kills. I've seen some players that are very good with Venom, and some bad. Learn how to play as him, there are no good all around heroes in this game.

[Tore]

Originally posted by Cyberpunk Rot:

Originally posted by Tore:

It's not a one shot mechanic? I have absolutely no idea how or where you got that idea from?

I'm talking about making his Ult do real dmg not just %hp. You can't get a kill with Venom Ult right now, at all, so what I'm saying is at least give it the ability to do dmg so it can get kills on low hp targets.

No. It can kill, because it does x amount of damage + a % of the target's MAX health. If a target has 300 health, lets say it does half their max as well, it'd do 200 damage no matter what health they have.

I went and checked, it does 50 dmg + dmg = to 50% of targets hp

FIFTY, that's less 30 more than his left click. So getting a kill is EXTREMELY unlikely.

The problem is he's great with an organized team. A venom ULT and a decent Hawkeye/Hela/BW is really really strong.

I really hope he gets reworked into a melee attacker, the whole weird ranged attacked doesn't make any sense at all and looks really stupid. Venom has always been a fist fighter using his size and movement to dominate opponents, rarely if ever has he used tendrils to attack.

[Get Out]

Yes he is absolutely horrible. You can surely annoy some people in pub lobbies, but the reality is he explodes in less than a second if you fight against a coordinated team.

[downloaddroid]

venom need to change to brock..when you hit the bell..many times on the map
-like the movie

[Frosty the Pyro]

Originally posted by Rafein:

Venom ult does not do much damage. It's more just another knock up/used to buy time to hit his shield again

Venoms ult is % based on their CURENT hp, 50%+50, that is HUGE damage vs full hp folks, but will only kill someone at 100 or less hp.