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Is storm no-skill?
I score first place in almost every Doom Match, when pre-buff and on any other hero I couldn't even make top 6 for the victory. I know I'm not very skilled, yet she gets me to that top spot constantly. In ranked pre-plat I was getting MVP almost every match too. Granted in plat I'm not out-skilled DPS wise but its still a fact hat my performance jumps dramatically compared to any other character. So, is she as no-skill as this seems?
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I'd like to know what character is actually very skill based in this game. I've played a huge chunk of the characters and they're all pretty simple to learn and understand quickly to preform well during a match..
Originally posted by Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:
I'd like to know what character is actually very skill based in this game. I've played a huge chunk of the characters and they're all pretty simple to learn and understand quickly to preform well during a match..
Almost all the dps that requires good aim, combos and techs. I cannot play any other dps. Even squirrel girl has a high skill ceiling. Sure I can have fun with her but I've seen some demons. You're comment is a little... well lets say "high and mighty". Most people aren't very skilled, I'm not, as is evidenced by my post.
Steve Jan 20 @ 1:23pm 
Before I answer: What's your sample size for this statistical claim?
I think it's more likely people don't know how to counter her yet. She almost never got played in Season 0, and now that her buffs made her much more relevant in Season 1, more and more people are picking her up and realizing how good she is. The more people have to fight her, the more they'll realize how to exploit her weaknesses, and she'll pretty quickly fall into place as another strong but balanced DPS pick.
Originally posted by Steve:
Before I answer: What's your sample size for this statistical claim?
Me.
Wouldn't say she's no skill but the buffs she got were veeeeery handy, particularly her projectile speed and damage buff which is kinda insane on her not gonna lie. She's really good right now but not invincible.
Originally posted by Jarek Defiler:
Wouldn't say she's no skill but the buffs she got were veeeeery handy, particularly her projectile speed and damage buff which is kinda insane on her not gonna lie. She's really good right now but not invincible.
Yeah DPS for me went from impossible to really fun. I climbed all the way to plat with her. But, not I can't compete at all with her or strange/peni (the only tanks I can play). I literally can only play mantis at this rank. So yeah not no-skill clearly, but for me she made massive difference. Especially Doom Match. I'm not kidding when I say I have been winning literally 8 out of every 10 games. Not top 6, *winning*. I know I'm not that good.
Originally posted by Anime-Profile-Picture:
Originally posted by Jarek Defiler:
Wouldn't say she's no skill but the buffs she got were veeeeery handy, particularly her projectile speed and damage buff which is kinda insane on her not gonna lie. She's really good right now but not invincible.
Yeah DPS for me went from impossible to really fun. I climbed all the way to plat with her. But, not I can't compete at all with her or strange/peni (the only tanks I can play). I literally can only play mantis at this rank. So yeah not no-skill clearly, but for me she made massive difference. Especially Doom Match. I'm not kidding when I say I have been winning literally 8 out of every 10 games. Not top 6, *winning*. I know I'm not that good.
Sounds like you're clicking well with her. Keep it up! I haven't played that much of her as I have been focusing on Black Widow the last week. Might have to start giving Storm some more time as I always liked her before her buffs despite her low dps.
No-skill? Nah. I've noticed one thing that's (relatively) consistent across the QP matches I've played. People have this nasty lil' habit of not looking up. Even when the enemy flyers get pinged.
Going "Hurr no skill" is a braindead conclusion and bear no value in discussion.

There are characters with a low skill floor and high skill floor. And you evaluate their usefullness and skill required based on how much value you get out of them, according to comparative effort\skill.

Example: Moon Knight is a low skill floor character with a comparatively low skill ceiling. But you can get a lot of value out of him, if played right, even without any fancy tricks and flanks. Just walking with your team, shooting forward, you can get a lot of value from all the damage he deals to entire opponent's team, which help secure kills and push forward.

Low effort - high impact. BUT, because everyone understand his kit and he doesn't have too many wacky abilities, he is easy to focus, easy to kill and easy to play around. Amount of value you get out of MK is capped.

Storm value is... weird. On one hand she does damage and increase damage of her team. But she is also played high up in the air a lot of times. SHe doesn't have mobility to escape or a burst potential of a Iron Man. You can't just point and shoot with her, cause you'll just die.
At very least i think you need to know how to play flying heroes and stay out of attack range, because you can take her out easily with Magneto, if you land couple good shots on her. Also certain ares on some maps are very bad to play with her.
I would say you need a decently high skill level to use her effectively, even tho she is a rather simple character from mechanical stand point.
Last edited by DoremianCleff; Jan 20 @ 2:29pm
Originally posted by DoremianCleff:
Going "Hurr no skill" is a braindead conclusion and bear no value in discussion.

There are characters with a low skill floor and high skill floor. And you evaluate their usefullness and skill required based on how much value you get out of them, based on comparative effort\skill.

Example: Moon Knight is a low skill floor character with a comparatively low skill ceiling. But you can get a lot of value out of him, if played right, even without any fancy tricks and flanks. Just walking with your team, shooting forward, you can get a lot of value from all the damage he deals to entire opponent's team, which help secure kills and push forward.

Low effort - high impact. BUT, because everyone understand his kit and he doesn't have too many wacky abilities, he is easy to focus, easy to kill and easy to play around. Amount of value you get out of MK is capped.

Storm value is... weird. On one hand she does damage and increase damage of her team. But she is also played high up in the air a lot of times. SHe doesn't have mobility to escape or a burst potential of a Iron Man. You can't just point and shoot with her, cause you'll just die.
At very least i think you need to know how to play flying heroes and stay out of attack range, because you can take her out easily with Magneto, if you land couple good shots on her. Also certain ares on some maps are very bad to play with her.
I would say you need a decently high skill level to use her effectively, even tho she is a rather simple character from mechanical stand point.
That Moon Knight is considered low skill is... disturbing for me. I can't get a single kill as him.
Doom match is just a little side mode, games not balanced for free for alls.
And lets be honest barely anyone is probably playing doom match, certainly not very many skilled players.

Hitscan heroes should destroy her and spiderman's, even magik, the problem is at low rank they don't focus the targets they should and or don't have the skill to play magik and spider man properly.
Last edited by Sacred)(Rhaine; Jan 20 @ 2:38pm
Originally posted by Anime-Profile-Picture:
That Moon Knight is considered low skill is... disturbing for me. I can't get a single kill as him.
Value doesn't always mean kills. Dealing a lot of damage to entire team often make them back off and allowing your tanks to push. It also make healers very busy, which help flankers, since they won't pay as much attention to surrounding.

As long as you keep landing hits on people, you will be getting value out of him. And when you get a chance, you can secure a kill or two with anks.

He is good against Groot and Peni, because they are very easy to hit and have no ability to block, as well as a good backup for divers like Thor, Hulk or Venom, because he has a very high damage output, which can scare them off.
Originally posted by DoremianCleff:
As long as you keep landing hits on people, you will be getting value out of him. And when you get a chance, you can secure a kill or two with anks.

He is good against Groot and Peni, because they are very easy to hit and have no ability to block, as well as a good backup for divers like Thor, Hulk or Venom, because he has a very high damage output, which can scare them off.
I guess I never thought about it that way in general huh. I'll keep it in mind. I've always felt damage without a kill is meaningless except maybe for feeding.
all the flyers are fragile and have to be very aware of sight lines and such not having a dash is her main weakness it makes her easy to track for descent shots what does feel kinda op is that her aura seems to reach up and down forever and isnt an actual sphere with a max vertical range.
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Date Posted: Jan 20 @ 1:15pm
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