3 healer meta is going to kill this game.

[侍Kage]

Just so you know, I love the game and i hope it stays alive forever however 3 healer meta is going to be the end of the game because how strong the healers are. They are providing immortality, when you stack mantis, dagger and luna in one team, 2 tanks including Dr.Strange which is the most broken tank in the game and 1 dps. You are basicly immortal if you have decent players. Ain't nobody dying in this team and guarantee a win.

You can ban one of them like luna, then people can pick invisible woman instead of luna there you go still op. This will be the end of the game if they don't do something about healer ultis providing immortality. This is getting insanely popular now, you'll see so many people criticizing the game about this day by day.

[Krazy Wallet]

Look at OW history. Every meta was eventually hated. Goats was hated worse because it wasn't fun to watch, but the strategy and positioning made it fun to play. Obviously that's a personal opinion though, some people hated goats, particularly dps players.

[id795078477]

It won't. These forums and the rank echelons where this meta (or any meta for that matter) is a thing are a tiny echo chamber. The experience of a handful of streamers - while loud enough - has nothing in common with that of an average player, if we're honest about "average".

Diamond = NOT average. Anything above = even more so. If OW is to go by, diamond would be ~10% of players tops and even in diamond - the lowest rank where "meta" can meaningfully be used (because of the same rule-set due to hero bans) - there are huge doubts about people being able to properly play any "meta" instead of just using heroes they're best at.

TL;DR: By the most generous estimations, the "meta" issues represent experience of 1 out of 10 players. Suffice it to say, making other 9 players out of that 10 bend over to have that 1 the happiest .. isn't the best idea. Realistically it's several times less than 1 in 10. And I didn't include QP here at all.

Let the game be fun.

[Shamalamadingdang]

If it's a bunch of randoms it can be overcome but yeah, a team that's coordinated will be a nightmare with 3 healers. Maybe a really good cap can create enough chaos in their ranks for something to happen? Other than that you're just waiting on an Ironman or Jeff ult. It's literally team wipe or nothing at that point. They need to either nerf the healers or Buff Hawkeye and Widow. If they have 3 healers you need to be able to one shot at that point.

[Zechariah]

its not impossible, or even difficult to win vs 3 healers. i honestly dont get why people complain about stuff like this. you aren't beholden to the meta unless you're in the exclusive number of players in GM and beyond. anything below that is a big skill issue.

want to beat a good enemy team stacking 3 healers? get 2 flank heros and coordinate your attacks.

[侍Kage]

Originally posted by Zechariah:

its not impossible, or even difficult to win vs 3 healers. i honestly dont get why people complain about stuff like this. you aren't beholden to the meta unless you're in the exclusive number of players in GM and beyond. anything below that is a big skill issue.

want to beat a good enemy team stacking 3 healers? get 2 flank heros and coordinate your attacks.

It will be insanely easy to cordinaate with other dps in solo Q, every single game you're right, sure man.. At the moment every single game i play is 3 healers, i'm not saying this only happens in enemy team but also happens in my team and makes the game insanely easy to win. This is a global issue i'm not here complaining because i lose or something.

[Caspy]

There is no 3 healer meta, nobody at high ranks plays 1-2-3.

[CoronaChan]

3 healers has like a 42% winrate. Its abysmal. Its not being played every game and when it is played it loses more than it wins.

222 is the only positive winrate comp at 52% which means that it is picked more often than other comps and beats the other none 222 comps

[NeoRaider]

Lmao, y'all are watching these streamers and youtubers way too much. "3 healer meta". What do you know about "3 healer meta"?? Where are you experiencing it? XD

[NeoRaider]

Originally posted by CoronaChan:

3 healers has like a 42% winrate. Its abysmal. Its not being played every game and when it is played it loses more than it wins.

222 is the only positive winrate comp at 52% which means that it is picked more often than other comps and beats the other none 222 comps

Where can i check these team comp stats?

[侍Kage]

Originally posted by NeoRaider:

Lmao, y'all are watching these streamers and youtubers way too much. "3 healer meta". What do you know about "3 healer meta"?? Where are you experiencing it? XD

What streamer? It's based on my matches, diamond is currently full of 3 healers team. I'm pretty sure above that is also the same.

[Krazy Wallet]

Originally posted by 侍Kage:

Originally posted by NeoRaider:

Lmao, y'all are watching these streamers and youtubers way too much. "3 healer meta". What do you know about "3 healer meta"?? Where are you experiencing it? XD

What streamer? It's based on my matches, diamond is currently full of 3 healers team. I'm pretty sure above that is also the same.

I'm seeing some of that in plat as well. Though I'm curious if that's due to "meta", or because there are lots of strategist mains out there that aren't competitive with tank/dps. In the silver and gold range, I was seeing people instalock dps so having dedicated strategists was a great advantage. Now that I'm in plat, I'm wondering if there is a higher volume of strategists in comparison.

Just my thoughts, I don't have any data on this

[NeoRaider]

Originally posted by Krazy Wallet:

Originally posted by 侍Kage:

What streamer? It's based on my matches, diamond is currently full of 3 healers team. I'm pretty sure above that is also the same.

I'm seeing some of that in plat as well. Though I'm curious if that's due to "meta", or because there are lots of strategist mains out there that aren't competitive with tank/dps. In the silver and gold range, I was seeing people instalock dps so having dedicated strategists was a great advantage. Now that I'm in plat, I'm wondering if there is a higher volume of strategists in comparison.

Just my thoughts, I don't have any data on this

3 Support "meta" barely works. Yeah, you have a high sustain thanks to all the healing and ults but you lack in damage and kill potential, and thats what matters.

[Arizona Fruit Punch™]

Originally posted by 侍Kage:

Just so you know, I love the game and i hope it stays alive forever however 3 healer meta is going to be the end of the game because how strong the healers are. They are providing immortality, when you stack mantis, dagger and luna in one team, 2 tanks including Dr.Strange which is the most broken tank in the game and 1 dps. You are basicly immortal if you have decent players. Ain't nobody dying in this team and guarantee a win.

You can ban one of them like luna, then people can pick invisible woman instead of luna there you go still op. This will be the end of the game if they don't do something about healer ultis providing immortality. This is getting insanely popular now, you'll see so many people criticizing the game about this day by day.

Just go four healers.

[Terotrous]

As a support main, I do think the game would benefit massively from reducing the healing on support ults, as they do create a lot of boring "wait out the ult" moments. I'd probably drop Mantis by about 20% (her ult is at least short), Luna by about 30%, and remove the healing from IW's ult entirely (it already has enough interesting utility, it doesn't also need to heal). Cloak and Dagger can stay, but their ult probably needs to cost more, it's up far too often.

[Blue Jet Lightning]

Tell that to 2 headshots and my fist.