Loki Ultimate Buff Idea

[Gaderic]

Would it be too much if he could copy any character without line of sight and if they're not even in play? The rest of his kit seems fine. It can be annoying trying to copy an ult and accidently pick someone else because they fly by your reticle or just want a different ult than what is currently in play. He might not be picked much for other reasons but what are your thoughts?

[76561198134094406]

Another idea, just copy any ult from any Game, even the star from super Mario with 60 secs duration and if u hit some shot u win the Game.

[Toybox]

I play a lot of Loki and this is absolutely unnecessary. His ult is fine.

[Gaderic]

I might start messing around with the ult confirmation mode for Loki even though I don't like how much time that would add to it.

[Steve]

Originally posted by Gaderic:

Would it be too much if he could copy any character without line of sight and if they're not even in play? The rest of his kit seems fine. It can be annoying trying to copy an ult and accidently pick someone else because they fly by your reticle or just want a different ult than what is currently in play. He might not be picked much for other reasons but what are your thoughts?

Too unbalanced. Loki would be far too able to counter other comps and his pick rate would be inflated because of that lack of balance.

[OMEGA]

there is some setting that makes it where you have to double confirm to activate it

[OhHellYeah]

What's hilarious is this is why this game is actually trash.
It's like they take these terrible player takes and ideas and actually put them in the game.
So congrats man "great" idea I'm sure we'll see it soon.

[☭Rosa]

he has the best ult in the game lmao

[Krazy Wallet]

Many heroes get banned just because of their ultimate, such as Luna. If Loki can have any ultimate, even if they are not from heroes actively in the game, that will pretty much insta-ban him in every competitive game (assuming diamond or higher).

[Gaderic]

Originally posted by OMEGA:

there is some setting that makes it where you have to double confirm to activate it

I'm just going to start using this. The more I think about it, I'm annoyed when the wrong ult I'm looking at is picked rather than the selection currently in play. Him copying any ult in the game would be busted.

[Tsorig]

I would buff his ult by giving it pre-select feature to copy some character before it reaches 100%. For example you could select Luna earlier before your ult is ready and once it hits 100% you have already Luna selected and you only need to push Q to activate it.

Edit: The pre-selected can only be some characters that is in your team or enemy team and you still have to have vision range for that hero to be able to pre-select and if you or the selected hero dies, you lose your pre-selection.

[Gaderic]

Originally posted by Tsorig:

I would buff his ult by giving it pre-select feature to copy some character before it reaches 100%. For example you could select Luna earlier before your ult is ready and once it hits 100% you have already Luna selected and you only need to push Q to activate it.

Edit: the pre-selected can only be some characters that is in your team or enemy team and you still have to have vision range for that hero to be able to it.

I was imaging it would be similar to Deimos' ability in Rainbow Six Siege where he can scroll through known characters in the lobby and select one to track. I do feel like that reduces skill and certain situations if a character he wants to copy is no where near Loki's position though. That's my only reservation. I like the idea that he loses the pre-select if they die though.

[Gaderic]

Originally posted by Tsorig:

Originally posted by Gaderic:

I was imaging it would be similar to Deimos' ability in Rainbow Six Siege where he can scroll through known characters in the lobby and select one to track. I do feel like that reduces skill and certain situations if a character he wants to copy is no where near Loki's position though. That's my only reservation. I like the idea that he loses the pre-select if they die though.

You are right. I still edited a bit my comment before.
I added "you still have to have vision range for that hero to be able to pre-select and if you or the selected hero dies, you lose your pre-selection."

Ah yeah a range for it to work would also help balance out the quality of life improvement if they did go that way. I still think it's fine in his current state. It just really annoys me sometimes when I could have saved a point but lost because a spiderman flew past my reticle.

[Say]

Originally posted by Tsorig:

I would buff his ult by giving it pre-select feature to copy some character before it reaches 100%. For example you could select Luna earlier before your ult is ready and once it hits 100% you have already Luna selected and you only need to push Q to activate it.

Edit: The pre-selected can only be some characters that is in your team or enemy team and you still have to have vision range for that hero to be able to pre-select and if you or the selected hero dies, you lose your pre-selection.

Wouldn't that reduce counter play?

Currently as Luna you can counterplay loki by either hiding from him so he can't copy you or hide amongst your teammates so its harder for him to select. Would be kinda dumb if he could just luna ult on CD regardless if you're there or not.

[Gaderic]

Originally posted by Say:

Originally posted by Tsorig:

I would buff his ult by giving it pre-select feature to copy some character before it reaches 100%. For example you could select Luna earlier before your ult is ready and once it hits 100% you have already Luna selected and you only need to push Q to activate it.

Edit: The pre-selected can only be some characters that is in your team or enemy team and you still have to have vision range for that hero to be able to pre-select and if you or the selected hero dies, you lose your pre-selection.

Wouldn't that reduce counter play?

Currently as Luna you can counterplay loki by either hiding from him so he can't copy you or hide amongst your teammates so its harder for him to select. Would be kinda dumb if he could just luna ult on CD regardless if you're there or not.

Loki also has an unlimited invisibility skill. as long as he doesnt attack, use skills, or get hit. He can always use that to sneak up on anyone and copy them too if all else fails.