black widow needs either a major buff or a complete rework

[Raiden - In Flames 🎵]

honestly she brings nothing to the team unless you are a god tier sniper that has too many hours in battlefield or call of duty. her kit in general sucks. everytime i see a black widow on my team it's almost always a 5v6 because black widow is so hard to play for the vast majority of the players.

[Headinjury]

Black Widow isnt even good at all. it just need like widowmaker chage time for snipe

[Kyutaru]

She's a sniper, so she legitimately feels designed to steal kills and snag the crit from afar. You're a long range support. Naturally, you're not going to be as lethal as a short range support that has to put themselves at greater risk to deal damage. Yet she's able to secure kills instantly from a range most other heroes cannot.

If you just scan the battlefield looking for already weak heroes to finish off, she's okay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_agSObKEik

[Gatita Tiernita]

I agree. I main Black Widow and she's terrible in most situations. It doesn't even matter if your aim is good and you hit most of your shots because her fire rate is so horrendous that the enemy will simply out-heal your damage or hide behind cover before you have time to finish them off and they'll just heal. She also doesn't have enough mobility or health to function well without support, so picking good angles is nearly impossible because she'll get isolated and killed very quickly. And if you stay with your team and you try to pick off the enemy healers from far away you'll just be shooting at tanks, shields and orbs most of the time because that's what will be in front of you all the time. Her ult is nearly useless and her batons are literally 100% useless and no one uses them. Those YouTube videos showing insane Black Widow gameplay are all nitpicked and only happen in limited ideal situations that favor her, but even those top Widows lose a ton of matches. She's just way too weak right now and not viable in most matches.

[Shoryukenfan]

I believe standard snipers like Black Widow should not be in the game at all. Its not fun for anyone, and they are almost impossible to balance. Remove Black Widow from game (I mean the current form, not the character) and rework it into something completely different that is not a sniper.

[Raiden - In Flames 🎵]

Shoryukenfan a écrit :

I believe standard snipers like Black Widow should not be in the game at all. Its not fun for anyone, and they are almost impossible to balance. Remove Black Widow from game (I mean the current form, not the character) and rework it into something completely different that is not a sniper.

a good start with be to give her dual pistols or maybe some sort of traps/grenades on the side to give her more fire power.

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

I think they over nerfed her and hawk eye. Both of them are at, or at least near the bottom of the viable character lists in ranked.

[Shoryukenfan]

Raiden - In Flames 🎵 a écrit :

a good start with be to give her dual pistols or maybe some sort of traps/grenades on the side to give her more fire power.

I'm not very familiar with her from the comics and films. Looking what they did before, there is so much inspiration to draw from. Anything better than a boring sniper. She is an assassin. So I would love to see some gadgets from her, something a little bit more interesting stuff.

[Terotrous]

Hawkeye also definitely needs help. The fact that Black Widow and Hawkeye's only teamup is with each other is terrible, even if that teamup was good you would never want 2 snipers on the same team.

IMO, Hawkeye is basically just Namor with no squids. Their LMB is similar, but Namor doesn't have to charge it, Hawkeye E is like a better Namor right click, they both have an escape on Shift but Namor's is way better, and they both have an underwhelming ult. The difference is Namor has the squids to help him finish off targets and Hawkeye has nothing that does this. Maybe he could get a teamup with Human Torch or something to get a fire arrow that sets people on fire for damage over time or something, that would then allow him to LMB someone to finish them off. He seriously needs something.

[Raiden - In Flames 🎵]

Terotrous a écrit :

Hawkeye also definitely needs help. The fact that Black Widow and Hawkeye's only teamup is with each other is terrible, even if that teamup was good you would never want 2 snipers on the same team.

IMO, Hawkeye is basically just Namor with no squids. Their LMB is similar, but Namor doesn't have to charge it, Hawkeye E is like a better Namor right click, they both have an escape on Shift but Namor's is way better, and they both have an underwhelming ult. The difference is Namor has the squids to help him finish off targets and Hawkeye has nothing that does this. Maybe he could get a teamup with Human Torch or something to get a fire arrow that sets people on fire for damage over time or something, that would then allow him to LMB someone to finish them off. He seriously needs something.

namors ult is a great CC ult you want to follow up with right click and left click!

[Revolution Swellow]

just switch the baton for her pistols and it's okay

[RobAlca]

all suggestions are bad,u guys dont know how to balance a game at all
first is to increase her magazine,then u go up from there

[star platinum]

She is very balanced, maybe need a small buff on her magazine but nothing more than that.

Getting one shoted across the map is not fun and every hero shooter meta that have sniper in it is problematic and not one want to play against this. If you played against Widowmaker meta in OW and S0 Hawkeye you should know how stupid a meta with snipers is.

[zopf76 ☭]

And I think, Black Widow is one of the most balanced Characters for a class-based Team play game.

[Shoryukenfan]

Black Widow is even worse than Widowmaker. Its actually impressive how they managed to do that.

[Paradoxicc70]

I've been saying since jump street both Hawk-eye & BW need a entire overhaul. Why?

Black-widow sucks & Hawk-eye is borderline over-powered without following who he is.

Black-widow should perform how Hawk-eye currently is.

Hawk-eye should basically be low damage but consistent long range damage. Have his attacks auto lock like a Long ranged iron fist or cloak. (His character shouldn't ever miss after-all)