So tired of broken ultimates

[Gatita Tiernita]

Most ults in this game are just ridiculous. I'm so tired of them. An ultimate should just give you a boost, an extra edge, it shouldn't be a free team wipe that no one can do anything about. On the DPS side too many ults just give you free kills for just pressing a button and on the healer side it heals so much that I've seen people combine ults for more damage (like Groot and Psylocke ult) and nothing will die because healer ults just outheal the damage. They need to balance ults, they shouldn't be free kills that no one can do anything to defend themselves from or can counter them. Either nerf ults or make it take longer to get them. This game should rely more on skill rather than who can charge their team-wipe ult faster.

[󠀡󠀡]

Skill issue

[JG2thend]

Again

[YT_RealDahmni]

we dont care

[Gatita Tiernita]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

Skill issue

Doesn't take any skill to press Q and get team wipes.

[Mister Sir]

Ignore the "cool" kids. You are right but nothing is going to change. Devs not gonna nerf the ults and while I personally myself know how to deal with most ults on several different characters I do have to agree that some ults are actual bs.

Everyone knows lunas ult and how to counter it but how is spidermans or storms ult balanced in any way? Spiderman you can see coming a mile away but cause he is moving at mac speed you aint snipping him, he is gonna get into your backline whenever the f he wants and pop that ult, which does flat dmg to everyone around, kills dps/healers and leaves tanks low hp while applying stun while giving spiderman double hp for the duration of it.... like who thought that was a good idea?

Or storm, uses ult, then goes invulnerable while choosing where to teleport with it and then wrecks everything while getting double hp... like who the ♥♥♥♥, thought that was a good idea? Also again, I know how to even counter and deal with most of these but just cause you are a gigachad who can judo throw an incoming car, does not mean situation is not total bs.

I am not the biggest fan of these "got to give space or use that one ult to counter it" ults. You either can't do ♥♥♥♥ about it or saving ults all game to just drop them to counter other ults like an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. On higher skill level you basically know that your def ult is a counter card vs enemy ult which makes all these powerful ults quite ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ underwhelming.,.. Like oh look enemy luna poped ult, cool, guess I am dropping my own healer ult, now both of us can pretend like neither one of us ever had an ult, cool gameplay.

[Shade]

Honestly I hit diamond and while it's not completely broken it's very hard to deal with, is 3 supports and usually with those 3 supports their is a loki who copies their ult right after its done. meaning Luna alt + luna alt you are locked out from really doing anything for 24 seconds. I find that extremely close to broken.

[ele]

Thankfully there are no ults that do that in Rivals. What games are you talking about?

[Mister Sir]

Originally posted by Shade:

Honestly I hit diamond and while it's not completely broken it's very hard to deal with, is 3 supports and usually with those 3 supports their is a loki who copies their ult right after its done. meaning Luna alt + luna alt you are locked out from really doing anything for 24 seconds. I find that extremely close to broken.

Oh yeah, that is straight up ass. Love everyone saving their ults and then dumping them all at once at crucial moments.

[Shade]

Originally posted by Mister Sir:

Originally posted by Shade:

Honestly I hit diamond and while it's not completely broken it's very hard to deal with, is 3 supports and usually with those 3 supports their is a loki who copies their ult right after its done. meaning Luna alt + luna alt you are locked out from really doing anything for 24 seconds. I find that extremely close to broken.

Oh yeah, that is straight up ass. Love everyone saving their ults and then dumping them all at once at crucial moments.

A lot of top 500 players say the same thing, that support ults are broken when coordinated. only thing you can really do is hope an iron man hits his ult to counter it. but at the top level people interrupt and stop your ult very quickly. And diamond isn't top level I'm talking about top 500, those players are so insanely good they know every counter what CC stops what and what to do in every little situation. So they are coordinated and having a luna ult + loki who does another luna ult a lot of them say the same thing, it's borderline broken and insanely hard to overcome.

[melonLord]

Originally posted by JG2thend:

Again

Again

[Gatita Tiernita]

Originally posted by Mister Sir:

Ignore the "cool" kids. You are right but nothing is going to change. Devs not gonna nerf the ults and while I personally myself know how to deal with most ults on several different characters I do have to agree that some ults are actual bs.

Everyone knows lunas ult and how to counter it but how is spidermans or storms ult balanced in any way? Spiderman you can see coming a mile away but cause he is moving at mac speed you aint snipping him, he is gonna get into your backline whenever the f he wants and pop that ult, which does flat dmg to everyone around, kills dps/healers and leaves tanks low hp while applying stun while giving spiderman double hp for the duration of it.... like who thought that was a good idea?

Or storm, uses ult, then goes invulnerable while choosing where to teleport with it and then wrecks everything while getting double hp... like who the ♥♥♥♥, thought that was a good idea? Also again, I know how to even counter and deal with most of these but just cause you are a gigachad who can judo throw an incoming car, does not mean situation is not total bs.

I am not the biggest fan of these "got to give space or use that one ult to counter it" ults. You either can't do ♥♥♥♥ about it or saving ults all game to just drop them to counter other ults like an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. On higher skill level you basically know that your def ult is a counter card vs enemy ult which makes all these powerful ults quite ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ underwhelming.,.. Like oh look enemy luna poped ult, cool, guess I am dropping my own healer ult, now both of us can pretend like neither one of us ever had an ult, cool gameplay.

Agree 100%. There have been times when I'm Widow and there is a Storm on literally the opposite side of the map. She's so far away that she appears small, then I hear she's about to ult, so I run back through the corridors that are behind while using sprint to get as far away as possible and she still teleports right next to me and kills me. Impossible to avoid or outrun even despite being on the other side of the map about 2 miles away. It's total BS.

And totally true about Spiderman. He just flies in at supersonic speed, wipes your backline for free because there is nothing to counter it and just leaves. I don't mind ults that just give some extra damage like Rocket's, or just leaves mines like Penny's or something like Dagger leaving a trail of damage + healing. Those are reasonable, but the ones you mentioned are totally broken and I'm so tired of them.

[Albert Minigolf]

Ults should be huge, not an apex legend ult that does nothing. I'm sure you want games to have constant nerfs and 50second ttk but let us have fun eh?

[Mister Sir]

Originally posted by Shade:

Originally posted by Mister Sir:

Oh yeah, that is straight up ass. Love everyone saving their ults and then dumping them all at once at crucial moments.

A lot of top 500 players say the same thing, that support ults are broken when coordinated. only thing you can really do is hope an iron man hits his ult to counter it. but at the top level people interrupt and stop your ult very quickly. And diamond isn't top level I'm talking about top 500, those players are so insanely good they know every counter what CC stops what and what to do in every little situation. So they are coordinated and having a luna ult + loki who does another luna ult a lot of them say the same thing, it's borderline broken and insanely hard to overcome.

To be fair me and my gf are in silver right now (climb has been very unkind with rando teams this season) and even now we can stop enemy ults often enough for it to be noticeable so I know what you mean. There are few exceptions of course, like you aint stopping luna/mantis/sue storm ults, you just got to counter them once and when they pop. Then spiderman, even if I see that insect coming it's like ok... guess he just gets to ult... cool... same as storm. Very little you can do there besides countering them with defensive ult of your own.

[DaylightDemon]

my issue with the ults is that too many are just "big circle that does damage" and big circle that does healing. they tend to be the most effective ones on this patch. moon knights ult in particular just didnt need a buff and i dont understand why they would buff his ult before the rest of his kit, in particular his primary without ankh or his mobility.

[Gatita Tiernita]

Originally posted by Albert Minigolf:

Ults should be huge, not an apex legend ult that does nothing. I'm sure you want games to have constant nerfs and 50second ttk but let us have fun eh?

It's not fun to be on the receiving end of an ult that it's impossible to counter, impossible to avoid, impossible to outrun. Very frustrating, actually. There are many ults that are reasonable and still fun that aren't free team wipes.