Luna and other heal ults is legitimately killing the game

[Fuji]

Luna, Mantis, Cloak and Dagger, all incredibly good ults that are basically "my team and I are invincible for 8-12s"
it's horrible game design, you basically have to pick an iron man, magneto, or scarlet witch to counter it and good luck hiting magnet or scarlet witch's ult on them
THAT is bad game design, a character should not just stop the flow of the game unless you have specific characters picked
There is a reason high level lobbies have some combination of luna+ permabanned.
Heal should be toned down, at the very least it should not completely negate damage from ults like punisher, storm, spiderman, basically anyone's that isn't an instant kill.
It's crazy how rocket's ult is considered bad, only because it's the only strategist ult that doesn't heal. The damage boost is actually insanely good! But the problem is everyone else just has something far better.
Adam warlock's revive is a perfect example of balance. It revives the whole team, but at reduced health

[Dio]

a lot of ults should be reworked

[TooHigh2Die]

Namor ult can kill through luna ult, and so can moonknight ult, learn to play rookie

[Quiet]

killing the game? i wouldnt go that far, but the press Q to avoid dives/duelist ults is definitely very anti-fun and boring to play against

[JG2thend]

Squirrels chew her ankles off and end it.

[Shade]

Honestly it gets worst in higher ranks, people go loki luna and cloak and dagger then you gotta deal with lunas alt twice with loki.

[YourFreeUseHairbrush]

Yea the ult counter fiasco is a bit restricting once ults are farmed. it feels like your forced to pick someone. ...but I have been able to just dps through a luna ult though with teamwork.

INB4 the devs add another polarizing mechanic to fix an existing polarizing mechanic. AKA 🤡verwatch adding antiheal to counter zenyattas invulnerability healing ult.

maybe they should try a stacking mechanic for heals and damage. the more shots you land the more damage you do. and the more healing you land the less you heal until you get an assist or kill which resets the stack. I'm talking about very small increments of stacks. I don't want punisher suddenly being a sniper.

[Akasha]

Originally posted by Fuji:

Luna, Mantis, Cloak and Dagger, all incredibly good ults that are basically "my team and I are invincible for 8-12s"
it's horrible game design, you basically have to pick an iron man, magneto, or scarlet witch to counter it and good luck hiting magnet or scarlet witch's ult on them
THAT is bad game design, a character should not just stop the flow of the game unless you have specific characters picked
There is a reason high level lobbies have some combination of luna+ permabanned.
Heal should be toned down, at the very least it should not completely negate damage from ults like punisher, storm, spiderman, basically anyone's that isn't an instant kill.
It's crazy how rocket's ult is considered bad, only because it's the only strategist ult that doesn't heal. The damage boost is actually insanely good! But the problem is everyone else just has something far better.
Adam warlock's revive is a perfect example of balance. It revives the whole team, but at reduced health

Skill issue, they aren't invulnerable, you are exaggerating. Just say your instalock duelist can't kill her therefor you don't like it. The game is copying overwatch so soon we'll get anti heal mechanics introduced and luna will fall out of the meta, though mantis adds a shield so she'll still be used.

[Nihil]

Zenyata and Lucio laughs in the corner.

[ele]

Except you can just one shot them and make their ult useless so no, they are fine. "Skill issue" as the kids say.

[Albert Minigolf]

No one already picks healer and you want to nerf them?

Other people have ults that kill, why should healing ones be less good?