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dtfe Aug 13, 2024 @ 6:32am
What anti cheat solution is this game using?
Due to the fact that the game is made by a chinese company, I can't help but ask what kind of anti-cheat solution the game has. It's not because of bad faith towards the company, but rather that Chinese companies have to share data with the chinese government.

Kernel-level anti-cheats are a bit too invasive for my taste and they don't really provide that much more protection while introducing more significant risk. (See https://youtu.be/GrzuiJezZEo?si=3rcgVyfGMucSNfp9 )

So I'm hoping they are just using a regular anti-cheat solution.
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werwolfgaming Aug 13, 2024 @ 7:02am 
https://youtube.com/shorts/U9_0df9OgQo?si=FrBqvruG8ADF-kM3

Heres why companies for live service has it in thair tos to collect id

They wont give the government ur info unless u live there since ur country outside china has laws against them doing that and could risk having thair games banned in those countries

For ur question we do not know yet what level off anti cheat they use
dtfe Aug 13, 2024 @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by werwolfgaming:
https://youtube.com/shorts/U9_0df9OgQo?si=FrBqvruG8ADF-kM3

Heres why companies for live service has it in thair tos to collect id

They wont give the government ur info unless u live there since ur country outside china has laws against them doing that and could risk having thair games banned in those countries

For ur question we do not know yet what level off anti cheat they use
Thats regarding collecting ID. I'm talking about kernel-level anti-cheat. I don't exactly trust a company from china to not be mandated to collect information from the computers of the users. I was never worried about my ID being collected though.
werwolfgaming Aug 13, 2024 @ 8:51am 
Originally posted by dtfe:
Originally posted by werwolfgaming:
https://youtube.com/shorts/U9_0df9OgQo?si=FrBqvruG8ADF-kM3

Heres why companies for live service has it in thair tos to collect id

They wont give the government ur info unless u live there since ur country outside china has laws against them doing that and could risk having thair games banned in those countries

For ur question we do not know yet what level off anti cheat they use
Thats regarding collecting ID. I'm talking about kernel-level anti-cheat. I don't exactly trust a company from china to not be mandated to collect information from the computers of the users. I was never worried about my ID being collected though.
if they collect info from the user and ur not IN china that would BREAK international prIvacy laws in both the EU and USA making it more than likely banned in most off all countries wich no game company nor china would ever want

https://www.marvelrivals.com/news/official/20240803/40185_1171770.html heres them showing they do have ways to detect cheats how they do is however not something they have explained its likely they have some ways to detect programs on ur pc likely done if u get reported enough to warrent the anti cheat to do a search for programs

https://protocol.unisdk.easebar.com/release/latest_v475.html heres them explaining what info they will collect

id give that a read if ur worried about how they use ur information
It uses Neac Protect which is one of the most weird and invasive anti-cheats out there.
dtfe Aug 13, 2024 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:
It uses Neac Protect which is one of the most weird and invasive anti-cheats out there.
thats rough
Originally posted by dtfe:
Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:
It uses Neac Protect which is one of the most weird and invasive anti-cheats out there.
thats rough
Yeah it's really annoying. Every time you launch the game it asks for admin permissions, and the application stays in admin mode the entire time so while your focus is on the game window all other programs can't see your inputs (e.g. toggle mute keybinds in Discord stop working).
werwolfgaming Aug 13, 2024 @ 12:33pm 
Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:
Originally posted by dtfe:
thats rough
Yeah it's really annoying. Every time you launch the game it asks for admin permissions, and the application stays in admin mode the entire time so while your focus is on the game window all other programs can't see your inputs (e.g. toggle mute keybinds in Discord stop working).
Uhm? I never had to give admin permission even once while launching it asked when launching on steam but clicking no will launch the games launcher anyways, unless im miss remembering something
Last edited by werwolfgaming; Aug 13, 2024 @ 12:38pm
werwolfgaming Aug 13, 2024 @ 12:38pm 
Also doing a google search shows they use NACE anti cheat, wich is netease anti cheat expert
Last edited by werwolfgaming; Aug 13, 2024 @ 12:42pm
Originally posted by werwolfgaming:
Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:
Yeah it's really annoying. Every time you launch the game it asks for admin permissions, and the application stays in admin mode the entire time so while your focus is on the game window all other programs can't see your inputs (e.g. toggle mute keybinds in Discord stop working).
Uhm? I never had to give admin permission even once while launching it asked when launching on steam but clicking no will launch the games launcher anyways, unless im miss remembering something
You are misremembering. If you click no the game will cancel trying to launch.
werwolfgaming Aug 13, 2024 @ 1:12pm 
Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:
Originally posted by werwolfgaming:
Uhm? I never had to give admin permission even once while launching it asked when launching on steam but clicking no will launch the games launcher anyways, unless im miss remembering something
You are misremembering. If you click no the game will cancel trying to launch.
Yet ur still wrong since the game uses NACE anti cheat not NEAC
werwolfgaming Aug 13, 2024 @ 1:16pm 
If u wanna read how nace works https://airtest-refactor.doc.io.netease.com/nace-doc/

Heres them describing what it does and the permissions the program needs
Originally posted by werwolfgaming:
Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:
You are misremembering. If you click no the game will cancel trying to launch.
Yet ur still wrong since the game uses NACE anti cheat not NEAC
Source?
werwolfgaming Aug 13, 2024 @ 1:44pm 
Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:
Originally posted by werwolfgaming:
Yet ur still wrong since the game uses NACE anti cheat not NEAC
Source?
Litterally do 1 quick google search while we do not know the exact program the fact is NACE is made by netease the same people making the game so would be stupid if they dont use thair own anti cheat that THEY made

I doupt theyd make an anti cheat and not use it themselfs while telling other companies that thairs is better
Last edited by werwolfgaming; Aug 13, 2024 @ 1:44pm
werwolfgaming Aug 13, 2024 @ 1:50pm 
Originally posted by werwolfgaming:
Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:
Source?
Litterally do 1 quick google search while we do not know the exact program the fact is NACE is made by netease the same people making the game so would be stupid if they dont use thair own anti cheat that THEY made

I doupt theyd make an anti cheat and not use it themselfs while telling other companies that thairs is better
If u need proof that NACE anti cheat was made by netease scroll to the bottom off this page https://nace.nie.easebar.com/ (note the page loads slowly) at the bottom there will be netease games who are the makers off marvel rivals so would be very weird if thair own game dont use thair own anti cheat
Originally posted by werwolfgaming:
Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:
Source?
Litterally do 1 quick google search while we do not know the exact program the fact is NACE is made by netease the same people making the game so would be stupid if they dont use thair own anti cheat that THEY made

I doupt theyd make an anti cheat and not use it themselfs while telling other companies that thairs is better
So you're just guessing...
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Date Posted: Aug 13, 2024 @ 6:32am
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