Struggling with progression

[Pepijn_Bubble]

Hi. I'm new to the game and don't quite understand all of it yet, I am enjoying the game but I'm running into a problem.

As of now I have played for just under 2 hours but i just don't feel like im progressing much. Sure, I get the occasional prestige but then I just end up at the same point faster. I don't really get past 6% infinity and am stuck at Quintillions. I'm wondering if there might be something i'm doing wrong or if I simply haven't put enough time in. I haven't idled at all and all of my progress has been in one singular sitting.

So I am asking for advice on what to do. The main question is whether I just need to be more patient or if there's something I'm missing.

TLDR:

• 100 minute active playtime, no idle.
  
• Little progress, stuck at 6% infinity and Quintillions
  
• Occasional prestige, feels pointless.

[Elementus]

Have you done any promotions?

[Shiroe (cortana)]

do promotions and prestige.

[<unknown>]

My first infinity take around 16 hours and my current best is 17 mins.

This game is more active than idle the only thing idle is Time Flux. Use the Time Flux to your advantage when you play x3 or simply skip time by chunk.

I highly advice to follow this when prestige to optimize your progression in the first infinity.
+0.05 Exponent or x100 Mult.

You'll need around 50 Promotion level in each one or 2 beyond that.

[Pepijn_Bubble]

Originally posted by Elementus:

Have you done any promotions?

No, as I mentioned i haven't gotten past the stage of prestige yet and I can't seem to be able to do much of anything other than wait. (It's an idle game, Duh.) But it still feels like everything could be going much faster.

[Ryoch]

How quickly are you prestiging? You probably want at least a 10x multiplier each time, prestiging too soon will just slow things down.

[fractalgem]

Originally posted by Pepijn_Bubble:

Originally posted by Elementus:

Have you done any promotions?

No, as I mentioned i haven't gotten past the stage of prestige yet and I can't seem to be able to do much of anything other than wait. (It's an idle game, Duh.) But it still feels like everything could be going much faster.

Ok. so.

Early game you generally want to prestige when you get, like, a 10 to 1000 fold improvement to your prestige multiplier.

Remember to press b to buy all, and to ascend your colors. You CAN minmax which color you spend on, a little bit, but buying evenly is "good enough".

[Pepijn_Bubble]

Originally posted by Ryoch:

How quickly are you prestiging? You probably want at least a 10x multiplier each time, prestiging too soon will just slow things down.

Right now I keep waiting for my prestige to reach an increase of at least 100x. Right now im at around 240x.

[Ryoch]

Originally posted by Pepijn_Bubble:

Originally posted by Ryoch:

How quickly are you prestiging? You probably want at least a 10x multiplier each time, prestiging too soon will just slow things down.

Right now I keep waiting for my prestige to reach an increase of at least 100x. Right now im at around 240x.

10x multiplicative, not additive. So at 240 your next one should be at least 2400.

[ffrotty]

Originally posted by Pepijn_Bubble:

Originally posted by Ryoch:

How quickly are you prestiging? You probably want at least a 10x multiplier each time, prestiging too soon will just slow things down.

Right now I keep waiting for my prestige to reach an increase of at least 100x. Right now im at around 240x.

yeah that's too much
0 exp, 10x gain, 0 secs

think of it this way, if you take 1 hour to get to 100x, you could have done 10x at the 6 minute point and done the other 94x much faster. it's not linear so it's not 12 mins total, but it's way faster than waiting an hour.

[Dwane Dibbley]

Originally posted by ffrotty:

Originally posted by Pepijn_Bubble:

Right now I keep waiting for my prestige to reach an increase of at least 100x. Right now im at around 240x.

yeah that's too much
0 exp, 10x gain, 0 secs

think of it this way, if you take 1 hour to get to 100x, you could have done 10x at the 6 minute point and done the other 94x much faster. it's not linear so it's not 12 mins total, but it's way faster than waiting an hour.

Things are not linear so your calculation is nonsense. Prestige also resets progression so prestiging with x10 adds up TONS of dead time to your progression.

[ffrotty]

Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:

Originally posted by ffrotty:

yeah that's too much
0 exp, 10x gain, 0 secs

think of it this way, if you take 1 hour to get to 100x, you could have done 10x at the 6 minute point and done the other 94x much faster. it's not linear so it's not 12 mins total, but it's way faster than waiting an hour.

Things are not linear so your calculation is nonsense. Prestige also resets progression so prestiging with x10 adds up TONS of dead time to your progression.

i literally said it's not linear and since it's not, x10 is better than waiting for x100.

x100 would be better if it sped up as you got closer: it slows down early on. yes, the 6 minute as 1/10th of an hour is inaccurate, but the next 10x is faster than waiting for 20x. even if it was 30 minutes to 10x and 60 to 100x, it's faster to 10x because of the curve.

10x+10x is faster than waiting for 20x at the point of the game OP is at.

[Dwane Dibbley]

Originally posted by ffrotty:

Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:

Things are not linear so your calculation is nonsense. Prestige also resets progression so prestiging with x10 adds up TONS of dead time to your progression.

i literally said it's not linear and since it's not, x10 is better than waiting for x100.

x100 would be better if it sped up as you got closer: it slows down early on. yes, the 6 minute as 1/10th of an hour is inaccurate, but the next 10x is faster than waiting for 20x.

10x+10x is faster than waiting for 20x at the point of the game OP is at.

Actualy no. This "math" shows that you have absolutly no idea how game works. Like, if your "math" is right, the best option would be setting it to like 1.00001x. Cuz faster is better, right?

The only way to make this uneffectively low autoprestige somehow work, is setting some min time (but you use 0 second).

If you are bad at math, you can make an experiment. Turn off auto prestige and autopromotion, infinite and watch the multiplier skyrocket. Then turn on your 0/10/0 autoprestige, infinite and watch how your multiplier grows much slower as your "brilliant" setting keeps adding more and more dead time by resets.

The growth is logaritmic, you dont want to interupt it in its log phase. So you either use higher number in automation (to reset it around its exponential growth peak), or use time limit to not cut it too early (low auto prestige/promo number might be viable later in run when the curve flattens enough).

[Pa3ckP7]

When i was doing my first infinity i waited for 0.02 increases in the exponent or it might've been 0.01 it does look lime a big increase. But keep in mind that's exponent so it doesn't end up being as little as one may think.

As for the 2 arguing about what is best. Guys yall are talking about auto prestige settings to someone who has yet to reach their first infinity chill.

And yes setting the auto prestige setting before you break infinity don't set them too aggressive as it can lead to a significant down time at the start of each infinity. After you break it tho set that ♥♥♥♥ to full aggression as you will prolly let a infinity run for long enough for the aggressive settings to make sense

For early game such as OP the only thing he needs to worry about is to prestige at intervals that provide some benefit in a reasonable time. If getting to 100x takes him an hour 100x prolly is not a good idea.

Now for as for big increase or small increase (lets ignore the fact exponent exists). If it takes you 6min to get to 10x increase in mult. You prestiege your score goes to 0 it will not take 10x less time to get back to where you were which is 30s. You had 30 seconds of downtime but now you have 10x the speed. With the old speed it would've taken you 60min to get to 100x and reach X multiplier. with the new speed we have spent 6min (from before) and 30s to get to 10% of our x in the next 30 seconds we will get 10% (as mult appear to increase at a somewhat constant rate) which means it will takes us in total 6minutes to reach 100% of our x for a total of 12 minutes. This does not account for exponent and assumes P. Mult increases linearly which may not be the case (and it provably isn't).

Oh and small note even the game recommends the 1st prestige should be done at 10x why not keep it at that way especially if it takes several minutes to get there

And OP down worry about the % thing it's logarithmic by a factor of 1000 every 1000x the score increase brings about 1% to your infinity

[ChiefKieran]

Originally posted by <unknown>:

My first infinity take around 16 hours and my current best is 17 mins.

This game is more active than idle the only thing idle is Time Flux. Use the Time Flux to your advantage when you play x3 or simply skip time by chunk.

I highly advice to follow this when prestige to optimize your progression in the first infinity.
+0.05 Exponent or x100 Mult.

You'll need around 50 Promotion level in each one or 2 beyond that.

I literally cant get any xp for promotions, i have one promotion to level 2, and thats it. i have played for around 9 hours and i just dont earn enough. i basically cap out at the first purchase of white at decillion and then it doesnt make any progress with the promotions

[fractalgem]

Originally posted by ChiefKieran:

Originally posted by <unknown>:

My first infinity take around 16 hours and my current best is 17 mins.

This game is more active than idle the only thing idle is Time Flux. Use the Time Flux to your advantage when you play x3 or simply skip time by chunk.

I highly advice to follow this when prestige to optimize your progression in the first infinity.
+0.05 Exponent or x100 Mult.

You'll need around 50 Promotion level in each one or 2 beyond that.

I literally cant get any xp for promotions, i have one promotion to level 2, and thats it. i have played for around 9 hours and i just dont earn enough. i basically cap out at the first purchase of white at decillion and then it doesnt make any progress with the promotions

level...2?? and you can't progress further?
1. the general advice is to go for about 3-4 levels for your VERY first promotion.
2. Did you take on one of the (infinity) challenges before you were ready for it? you should probably hit leave challenge if you can't complete them within about an hour.