Why progress is so slow?

[MISTER⁧⁧BAZYKA]

I have Supernova 5 and 16 Eternity challenges (it took mearound 2 days for supernova and almost a week for 16th challenge). Was this game broken by an update early last month? What should I do?!?!

[Kyouko Tsukino]

You think that's slow, wait until you get to Dilation Tree Point 40+. It can take a whole day just to get back to farming animal points or gaining DPs.

In any case, if something takes you that long early on, you weren't ready for it. You're trying to force progression while under-prepared, or with an automation setup that's hurting your speed. More data is needed to figure out what may be wrong.

[MISTER⁧⁧BAZYKA]

Originally posted by Kyouko Tsukino:

You think that's slow, wait until you get to Dilation Tree Point 40+. It can take a whole day just to get back to farming animal points or gaining DPs.

In any case, if something takes you that long early on, you weren't ready for it. You're trying to force progression while under-prepared, or with an automation setup that's hurting your speed. More data is needed to figure out what may be wrong.

collected everything I thought was important

screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/ddlnAnq

I'd appreciate any help

[Kyouko Tsukino]

There's only one thing that seems odd, although your numbers may be a bit low for what you're trying to do. This game involves more farming than the whole Harvest Moon saga, sadly.

Anyhow, lab upgrades other than 5 and 6 will slow you down most of the time, if not all the time. There's some people spreading the placebo that upgrades 1 or 2 are totally worth it, but I was slowly grinding the game by spreading my lab points around until I "figured out" (read elsewhere,) that 5 and 6 (and later on, 6 alone) are the only lab upgrades that aren't just vanity accessories.

[MISTER⁧⁧BAZYKA]

Originally posted by Kyouko Tsukino:

There's only one thing that seems odd, although your numbers may be a bit low for what you're trying to do. This game involves more farming than the whole Harvest Moon saga, sadly.

Anyhow, lab upgrades other than 5 and 6 will slow you down most of the time, if not all the time. There's some people spreading the placebo that upgrades 1 or 2 are totally worth it, but I was slowly grinding the game by spreading my lab points around until I "figured out" (read elsewhere,) that 5 and 6 (and later on, 6 alone) are the only lab upgrades that aren't just vanity accessories.

You just save saved me. Many thanks.

[FrenchSpy]

Dumping all of your points into lab upgrade 1 in the early supernovas is pretty necessary to gain EP for AP and lab speed upgrades. I found that cycling between all points in 1 and 5/6 at a 1:2 or 1:3 ratio speeds up the game quite a bit.

[Kyouko Tsukino]

Thanks for providing an example of the placebo. It's 5 and 6 that are speeding that up. You're free to FlatEarth along with all other FlatEarthers, but don't spread it.

[FrenchSpy]

Originally posted by Kyouko Tsukino:

Thanks for providing an example of the placebo. It's 5 and 6 that are speeding that up. You're free to FlatEarth along with all other FlatEarthers, but don't spread it.

5 and 6 literally doesn't generate enough IP/EP quickly enough to make big pushes in AP or lab upgrades in a timely manner. It isn't placebo if it produces actual results over something else anyways. Ultimately OP can try both if they want to and post results.

[Kyouko Tsukino]

You use "literally." That's all the proof that's needed of verity. Thank you, once again, for demonstrating via the method of comedy. Farewell.

[FrenchSpy]

Originally posted by Kyouko Tsukino:

You use "literally." That's all the proof that's needed of verity. Thank you, once again, for demonstrating via the method of comedy. Farewell.

Too dense to accept that maybe the game has changed since you were at the point OP and myself were at or that different approaches work in general. A quick google search or scroll through the games reddit would show that pumping lab upgrade 1 is a viable strategy that the community has been using during the stage of the game we are talking about.

[arronax06]

For what it's worth, at the first stages of eternity when you don't have a lot of RP, the IP/EP lab upgrades are indeed better. They do become obsolete after a while, then the gen power and the common exponent upgrades become the only ones worthwhile.

[GeldMaster]

i went from supernova 4 with 30 animals to supernova 36 and all animals today, how is it hard?

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Originally posted by Kyouko Tsukino:

Thanks for providing an example of the placebo. It's 5 and 6 that are speeding that up. You're free to FlatEarth along with all other FlatEarthers, but don't spread it.

when you say 5 and 6, do you mean common exponent and gen power exponent?