Late game priorities [(317/320) achievements]

[Pierre_Bezemer]

I'm getting towards the end of the current update, I only have the SM lvl3+, 1 of each type and the base2+ SM left. (I've spawned 5 SM's so far)

I was wondering what y'all's priorities are at this stage?
I've not really focused on the SM's, because I wanted to get my Sun & Moon generation to 5 first in order to spawn them every 2 cycles, but now I see that apparently the spawn cost of the SM's are increasing after a certain amount of spawns :(
So what would be a good path forward? (I have 1h of TF left, I get about 47 min TF per 1h I'm offline)

my current status:
refine tree node upgrades cost: >20T RfP for each of the 3 nodes left (>= 2.0e13 RfP)
polish enhance upgrades: >= 12,5 T RfP (>= 1.3e13 RfP)
rune generation: >= 100T RfP (>= 1.0e14 RfP)
Special Mineral upgrades: >= 16 T RfP (>= 1.6e13 RfP)
Donut shop upgrades: > 50 Sx Astrodust (5.0e22 Astrodust)

Rune upgrades:
Sun: Node1 effect: x2
MagChance = x2.8
Sun generation: 5

Moon node7 effect: x3
Magnet Amount: x2
Moon generation: 4

Currently in runs I have:
att lvl 3532
e3582 gold
spawn lvl 170 minerals

(I also have about 12.000 souls for shop upgrades, any tips on what to focus spend them on is also very welcome)

[Dwane Dibbley]

Just ignore special minerals (i think they dont even work, or its effect is absolutly tiny). Focus on pushing and mineral speed.

Loooong run to push relics/gold, then farm RfP with short runs, buy refine tree upgrades, moon/sun times, polish stuff and repeat. Moon node 7 boost helps ALOT.

[Chris37599]

Donut shop upgrades: > 50 Sx Astrodust (5.0e22 Astrodust)

Curious, how'd you farm out the astrodust to get your costs that high? Did you just spam unities as fast as possible with a full pisces setup or something else?

[Dwane Dibbley]

Originally posted by Chris37599:

Donut shop upgrades: > 50 Sx Astrodust (5.0e22 Astrodust)

Curious, how'd you farm out the astrodust to get your costs that high? Did you just spam unities as fast as possible with a full pisces setup or something else?

Full pisces and unity spam. If you cant get instant unity, throw in one aries.

[Pierre_Bezemer]

Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:

Originally posted by Chris37599:

Curious, how'd you farm out the astrodust to get your costs that high? Did you just spam unities as fast as possible with a full pisces setup or something else?

Full pisces and unity spam. If you cant get instant unity, throw in one aries.

I think I could get instant unities after the 3rd insane challenge without having to do anything in terms of macro's and at that point I have been doing them a lot.
Just put the automation for doing unities, all 4 requirements at 0 and highest level as prio,
and for selling zodiacs.

I have a full speed build running, but it might be better to exchange the Pisces and the Scorpio for more luck on everything you either sell or sacrifice.

[Pierre_Bezemer]

Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:

Just ignore special minerals (i think they dont even work, or its effect is absolutly tiny). Focus on pushing and mineral speed.

Loooong run to push relics/gold, then farm RfP with short runs, buy refine tree upgrades, moon/sun times, polish stuff and repeat. Moon node 7 boost helps ALOT.

Thank you for the reply, I've now calculated the amount of sun's and moon's I need at most to get at least 1 SM to base lvl 2, and calculated that receiving back the benefit from going to sun/moon creation 8 will be higher than the total cost of getting 1 SM to base lvl 2. So my first prioities are now to get those creations at lvl 7 and do the other rune upgrades (does a magnet chance of > 100% gives the chance to get double magnets for a spawn?).
After which I will focus on the SM.

Just got the Brush, Queen of Spades and Easle to sacrifice lvl and have e3900+ gold, but the next sacrifice will probably be available around e4900, so that will take a while.

Can spawn minerals of lvl 181 now, and trying to get a mineral to lvl 201 to see if I can get the next version of paper xD

[phadin]

Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:

Just ignore special minerals (i think they dont even work, or its effect is absolutly tiny). Focus on pushing and mineral speed.

Loooong run to push relics/gold, then farm RfP with short runs, buy refine tree upgrades, moon/sun times, polish stuff and repeat. Moon node 7 boost helps ALOT.

SPM do a lot, but only as you collect them in decent amounts... and it depends on the SPM.

That said, you shouldn't start collecting them until you have rune generation up to at least x5 for both runes (particularly moon). Your big focus is going to be increasing Game Speed at this point, since thats the main thing to help make rune generation faster. Polishing knuckles is very important, the other four weapons much less so. with x5 generation, you can get around 80-100 SPM, then go for x6. Most people finish the rest of SPM and Ach. 320 with x6 generation.

Once you get your rune multiplier up to a good amount you can start spawning SPM. As was noted, Getting the N7 moon upgrade is also important. You need that to at least x3 so you can get Relic 21 to 301, which provides a massive gold boost.

Beyond that, it's a long slog on the special minerals. Ach. 320 itself I think was not designed to be completed quickly until the next update, so for now it requires a LONG time (weeks) to get that last achievement. I'm just short of halfway there with around 40-50 of each special mineral, spawning 196 and refining over 210 (did 218 on my overnight long run).

[Pierre_Bezemer]

Originally posted by phadin:

Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:

Just ignore special minerals (i think they dont even work, or its effect is absolutly tiny). Focus on pushing and mineral speed.

Loooong run to push relics/gold, then farm RfP with short runs, buy refine tree upgrades, moon/sun times, polish stuff and repeat. Moon node 7 boost helps ALOT.

SPM do a lot, but only as you collect them in decent amounts... and it depends on the SPM.

That said, you shouldn't start collecting them until you have rune generation up to at least x5 for both runes (particularly moon). Your big focus is going to be increasing Game Speed at this point, since thats the main thing to help make rune generation faster. Polishing knuckles is very important, the other four weapons much less so. with x5 generation, you can get around 80-100 SPM, then go for x6. Most people finish the rest of SPM and Ach. 320 with x6 generation.

Once you get your rune multiplier up to a good amount you can start spawning SPM. As was noted, Getting the N7 moon upgrade is also important. You need that to at least x3 so you can get Relic 21 to 301, which provides a massive gold boost.

Beyond that, it's a long slog on the special minerals. Ach. 320 itself I think was not designed to be completed quickly until the next update, so for now it requires a LONG time (weeks) to get that last achievement. I'm just short of halfway there with around 40-50 of each special mineral, spawning 196 and refining over 210 (did 218 on my overnight long run).

Thank you for the reply, I'm gonna wait on the next generation rate upgrade for both sun and moon and then I'll either get one more upgrate on the node 1 and node 7 sun/moon upgrades, or I'll focus then on the SM's