Help with my setup, please?

[tracian]

Hi guys,
I've been playing for a while. I broke infinity, bought the 16 upgrade tier, got 9 (6+2+1) generators. I am also slamming my face against a wall, earnings-wise.

I tried following both the guides here and the GameVault one, but my IP/s gain remains around 40 instead of shooting up as expected.

Any suggestions about what could be wrong, and how to fix it?

[ohener]

the IP/s gain tends to start shooting up once you can easily get past around 1e3080 score, maybe 1e3100. Until then you just want to set your autoinfinity at whatever number seems to be giving you the most ip/s at the moment and wait. Try to get more generator upgrades and lower your challenge times in the meantime if you can.

[arronax06]

That's the point where you have to switch from doing relatively short runs to longer ones. Let your IP grow for 15-20 minutes and check how high your IP is going before cashing in, you should see a significant increase in your earnings :)

[Kawaiian Punch]

Once you're at the 16 tier, don't auto-infinity. Work on recording the shortest challenge times you can., get a short autoinfinity, then go deep--don't auto, just let it tick up afk for a while. The game kinda seems like it stalls at first, but over time, the longer you wait at this stage, the greater the dividends per second. After that, go deep deep deep and only cash in IP.

[Dravkwn]

I know that I've hit my slow spot in that first time through. I ended up setting 1 IP min for auto infinities and was doing about 4 of them a second. Ran my total from around 300k to a bit over 600K in a relatively short time and then the next long run I did I made a hell of a lot more IPs in the same time because of all those upgrades that scale off of infinities. Makes me wonder how many the OP has.

[bigbluebuttonman]

As others have said, you have to do longer runs. But specifically, generators are pulling a lot of weight here.

1. Once you've cleared the 16th tier, your generators are really good.
2. Because your generators are really good, this means you can trounce the infinity challenges. I have most challenges at 3-10 seconds, 8th challenge at 16 seconds, and the 9th challenge at 48 seconds. This can go even further, according to others.
3. Trouncing the infinity challenges brings up the multipliers for your challenge time-sum upgrades. For example, my first generator gets a free 11.5x from the challenges having good times, and your 4th promotion also gets a pretty good boost from the 4th challenge having a good time. I'm sure it can go even further than this.
4. This stacks with your infinities, which gets a multiplier boost based on your sum of challenge times. In my case, it's 6x.
5. The infinities all apply boosts to your generators. For your first generator, it's basically a flat multiplication based on how many infinities you have, though I'm sure it feeds back into some of the lower tier upgrades even further.
6. Turn your infinity on, don't leave it broken. Turn off your automation besides prestige, tune it a little bit, and then just let the game farm for infinities. I'm gaining 13 infinities for every infinite, with an infinity at every 1.5 seconds, about 8 infinities per second. It can probably get a little faster with a bit more tuning and time.
7. This will make your generators and other upgrades even better. The infinities also multiplicatively boost ascensions and your IP gain.
8. Break infinity, and turn the rest of your automations on, except infinity automations.
9. Find the limit of your run, and let your auto-infinity do the rest of the work.

(Rinse and repeat until you get past the barrier).

It's a bit annoying, because when you're doing long runs, the fastest way to get promotions up is to just set the auto-promote to kick in at a high value (like 200). But in my experience, it gets clogged past 1e3080 lap score, and just doesn't want to get any higher than level 800, but the extra 100 or so levels that it's not automatically acquiring get you to those 10x IP gains much faster. The ideal scenario is that you promote to about level 800s, and then they just never promote, but the automation doesn't *really* allow for that in the way I'd like it to.

Your prestige will stop working as well, but the ip will grind up much faster. 10x mult gain or 100x mult gain seems to work pretty well from my perspective.

Got a 5 million IP gain in one run, about 10 or so minutes, with 7K+ IP/s.