Strategies for best Infinity time and IP/s?

[AstroDadSkillz]

I'm running Broken Infinity with Automate Infinity and am currently upgraded through 17;3. I've been tweaking my automate settings (Infinity and the others) and the best results I've been able to obtain are a consistent time of 2.7s and 880 IP/s.

I'm wondering if anyone has some insight into how to get a better result, particularly in regards to the interplay between the various Automations. It seems everything (including broken infinity) boils down to achieving the fastest Infinity time. I'm wondering how others are using the other automation (prestige, promote) "minimum time" to impact the overall infinity time. I think my 2.7s time is related to the 2s minimum time I have set on auto-promote and auto-prestige, but it's hard to actually prove that while everything is running simultaneously.

Any insight/feedback you have is appreciated. Thanks

[Dwane Dibbley]

Imho try long runs (like 20 minutes, keep checking your infinity progression and infinity once you get enough IP for upgrades/generators). You will be getting ALOT more once you start filling infinity bar over and over. And once you start with long runs, you wont rly touch automations again. I got 1B/1s prestige and +20/3s promotions (1-2-4-3 cycle) since late infinities, didnt changed it since and im doing stars.

And few upgrades are tied to chalange times, so its worth to rerun challanges once in the while.

[AstroDadSkillz]

Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:

got 1B/1s prestige

Thanks! Can you further explain your prestige setup? I get the 1s setting. You have 1B (1e9) in P.Exp or P.Mult ? Or both? Thx

[Dwane Dibbley]

Multiplier. Exponent setting is useless, its insanely inaccurate, you get like e500 multiplier but only ^2 exponent. So better leave exponent empty.

[s1borg]

Advanced from 16.2 up to 4 star(after 21.1) with this setup:
Autobuy Buyables - 100%
Automate Prestige | 0, 1000, 0
Automate Infinity | time 1200s(instead of time you can check how much IP you will get near 20min and set this amount as min IP and time to 0.005)
Automate Promotions
Promotion 1 - +15, 5s
Promotion 2 - +15, 5s
Promotion 3 - +15, 5s
Promotion 4 - +15, 5s

Also try to complete all 9 challenges and get lesser Challenges time sum - at least 4-5 minutes then down to 4 sec.
And don't forget to buy generators.

Challenges time sum and generators give great boost.

[Dwane Dibbley]

Originally posted by s1borg:

Automate Infinity | time 1200s

Im running manual infinities as it fluctuates too much after each infinite. Sometimes i infinite in 15 minutes, sometimes in 1 or 2 hours. Basicaly check how much you can get and how much you need for upgrades and plant infinity acordingly.

[muljostpho]

I go by whatever target IP gain from automate infinity feels reasonable to me but I try to pick that value somewhere around what ends up being 3 or 4 or 5 minute infinities. I set a target and wait for a few infinities to complete and I adjust the target again if it's done in only 1 or 2 minutes. Maybe I'm wrong and 20 minutes ought to be the goal like someone said here but from what I've seen things feel like they stagnate too much if it takes longer than 5 minutes.

If you watch it over a few minutes though the IP value of an infinity does kinda plateau for a bit and then spike an absurd amount out of nowhere and then plateau again and then maybe it spikes again...

I picked up a tip from somewhere for 5 second timings on automate promote and it has seemed to be working good at that pace. I've tried this with as high as 25 levels as the target but I just now dialed it back to 15 levels like a comment in here suggested. Seems to be getting good results, but then at the same time as I'm trying this I've been getting the next tier generator and levels on several other generators all purchased so performance is going to improve with those anyway.

Oh, speaking of upgrades shifting what the target ought to be, I just purchased upgrade 20.1 and went from 1e21 IP in 3m22s to 1e21 IP in 53.38s. So that target needs to get pushed way up. I usually test in smaller increments than this but screw it, let's see what time it does 100e21 IP in... And it's 3m36s. Testing 250e21 now, because why not. And... that's 4m32s. I'm good with that, for now. Although that did just get me a few more generator levels, so... lol, reaching 100e21 in 3m18s now.

Anyway, I could be wrong but it seems to me like the first prestige or two in a promotion cycle struggle too much if I set the target multi for the prestige at 1,000,000 or higher. I seem to get the best results with 10,000 or 100,000. I run one of those at 0.9 second timing. But that's just sort of what I arbitrarily felt made sense. I don't know if that's actually a good time for it. My reasoning was that if it hits that timing on every prestige and I'm running the promotions on 5 second timers it gets 5 prestiges in and then there's still half a second for things to work before the 5 second mark where a promotion should be happening.

[AstroDadSkillz]

Thanks Dwane Dibbley, s1borg and muljostpho!
Your advice has really helped out.

I ended up targeting a Min IP rather than Time in Automate Infinity due to the varied results using Time, as Dwane Dibbley pointed out. I also see that the IP/s seems to correlate nicely to the time of the run. I ran some scenarios and found that targeting 5B ran 3min for 26M/s, targeting 20B ran for +6min for 52M/s, and targeting 40B ran 9min for 75M/s. The IP/s increased at the same rate at the run time. (Triple the run time netted triple the IP/s.) I'll try out the 20 minute scenario to see if that exceeds my ceiling and breaks the correlation.

I also saw better results using s1borg's recommendation for 15, 5 on Promote and muljostpho's recommended Prestige target multi of 100,000 rather than a higher number. (I experimented with higher and lower variations of these and found these numbers to work best for me.)

So just to recap, 9 hours ago I was stuck at 880 IP/s wondering how to proceed. Your advice got that up to 75M/s (and likely upward with the 20 minute scenario). I've yet to obtain the 19;1 thru 21;1 upgrades, but this will definitely help. Thanks again!

[DemonKez Ttv]

Originally posted by s1borg:

Automate Promotions
Promotion 1 - +15, 5s
Promotion 2 - +15, 5s
Promotion 3 - +15, 5s
Promotion 4 - +15, 5s

+15 seems really low. are you sure thats good?

[narancs]

Originally posted by DemonKez Ttv:

Originally posted by s1borg:

Automate Promotions
Promotion 1 - +15, 5s
Promotion 2 - +15, 5s
Promotion 3 - +15, 5s
Promotion 4 - +15, 5s

+15 seems really low. are you sure thats good?

+15 might seem low, but since he has 5s specified as minimum time it will ramp up very quickly in the beginning

I am running with very similar numbers (+20 level gain, min time 2s).
Since at least 2 seconds has to pass before the auto-promotion kicks in it will stack up much further than +20 initially, so I might get up to 400-600 levels in a couple of seconds

Although these numbers work very well for me now, I have to admin I have set the very long time ago (before my first eternity, and now I am past my 11th eternity). I might have to tweak it littler more frequently to get more optimal setup from time to time

[s1borg]

Originally posted by DemonKez Ttv:

Originally posted by s1borg:

Automate Promotions
Promotion 1 - +15, 5s
Promotion 2 - +15, 5s
Promotion 3 - +15, 5s
Promotion 4 - +15, 5s

+15 seems really low. are you sure thats good?

yep, tried so much combinations of levels and time but this was the best for my automation setup.

[Dwane Dibbley]

Originally posted by DemonKez Ttv:

Originally posted by s1borg:

Automate Promotions
Promotion 1 - +15, 5s
Promotion 2 - +15, 5s
Promotion 3 - +15, 5s
Promotion 4 - +15, 5s

+15 seems really low. are you sure thats good?

Depends where you are. I started with 10/5 and soon changed to 20/3 and that lasted till eternity.

[mattygeeidle2024]

I run +10, 10s, Prestige 1-2-4-3. If I dont use +10, I feel like the rotation gets stuck too much. I opted for a less gain but larger wait time. I'm trying to buy 20:2.

[phillip_lynx]

Originally posted by mattygeeidle2024:

I run +10, 10s, Prestige 1-2-4-3. If I dont use +10, I feel like the rotation gets stuck too much. I opted for a less gain but larger wait time. I'm trying to buy 20:2.

How long do you your runs?

[AstroDadSkillz]

Originally posted by phillip_lynx:

How long do you your runs?

The run time depends on how aggressively you set your Min IP target. When I target my next generator upgrade (which is usually an increase of a factor of 10) it takes about 30-45 minutes the first run. Each subsequent run takes less time. While I was afk today, I increased my target by a factor of 100 and the run time was 4.5hrs. (But that let me buy 3 generator upgrades, so subsequent runs are shorter.) Before I was targeting upgrade costs, I was just increasing the target to whatever has a runtime of approx 6 minutes (for more immediate gratification). But obtaining upgrades with the shorter runs takes longer. The longer the runtime, the higher the IP/s.

[Tenebrarum]

Hey guys, sorry to necro this a bit ... I'm sure no one will remember it anymore but ...

I'm really struggling to get over the 100k IP/s ... and i'm seeing the OP talk about hopping from 800IP/s to 75M IP/s...

wondering what i'm doing wrong... tried several variations of what you guys suggest and I can't seem to ever get over 100-120k IP/s...

Got all challenges around 10-30s ... Infinity upgrades at 17:1,2,3 ... Automations at:
Promote : 15lv/5s
Prestige : 0, 5, 0 (tried 1 mill, tried 100k, 5 seems to be the best so far...)

Really really appreciate any suggestions u might have to improve :) still testing variations :D