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q695 Nov 1, 2024 @ 7:12am
Has anyone discovered a trick to optimize lab points?
I'm wondering if someone delved deeply into the math of lab points use, and could explain how to optimize them for me.
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s1borg Nov 1, 2024 @ 8:40am 
As found out in other threads, the best thing to do is 100 to Gen Power Exponent and all other point to Common Exponent, everything else is useless.
q695 Nov 1, 2024 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by s1borg:
As found out in other threads, the best thing to do is 100 to Gen Power Exponent and all other point to Common Exponent, everything else is useless.
OMG, thanks
q695 Nov 1, 2024 @ 12:12pm 
I wish they let you buy more than 1 item at a time in the multiplier area.
CuAnnan Nov 1, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by s1borg:
As found out in other threads, the best thing to do is 100 to Gen Power Exponent and all other point to Common Exponent, everything else is useless.
Yeah. Seven orders of magnitude of instant improvement.
Thanks.
mandor62681 Nov 1, 2024 @ 7:25pm 
thank you
Dwane Dibbley Nov 2, 2024 @ 2:42am 
Originally posted by s1borg:
As found out in other threads, the best thing to do is 100 to Gen Power Exponent and all other point to Common Exponent, everything else is useless.

Thats far from the best thing. While its best to throw all to last 2 upgrades, the optimal ratio keeps changing and its certainly not 100 in one and everything else in second. If you have 100 points and you use 100:0, its bad, if you have 1000 points and use 100:900 its also bad. If you wont use points reset to find good ratio, you will hit wall in dilatation.
RustyP Nov 2, 2024 @ 3:28am 
I'm finding that somewhere in the order of 1:10 to 1:4 appears best, but unsure what the maths works out to and why. And yes, other than a brief period where I believe full stack IP gain was optimal (when you first get to unlock animal 6;2), any point in anything other than bottom two appears wasted.
Moonlight Nov 12, 2024 @ 6:44am 
IP gain is also good.
Dwane Dibbley Nov 12, 2024 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by Moonlight:
IP gain is also good.

Its not. Lab should be rebalanced cuz anything but last 2 exponent upgrades are FAR inferior. Exponents simply boost everything else, IP included. Like why pick one, if you can pick everything?
Moonlight Nov 12, 2024 @ 7:31am 
Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:
Originally posted by Moonlight:
IP gain is also good.

Its not. Lab should be rebalanced cuz anything but last 2 exponent upgrades are FAR inferior. Exponents simply boost everything else, IP included. Like why pick one, if you can pick everything?
Well IP gain gains me more EP than the other ones. The others are better for supernova then?
Dwane Dibbley Nov 12, 2024 @ 8:03am 
Originally posted by Moonlight:
Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:

Its not. Lab should be rebalanced cuz anything but last 2 exponent upgrades are FAR inferior. Exponents simply boost everything else, IP included. Like why pick one, if you can pick everything?
Well IP gain gains me more EP than the other ones. The others are better for supernova then?

Bottom 2 are the best for everything, just ratio might vary abit thru the game. Generator and common exponent, there are 6 upgrades, looks like some ppl havnt find out they can scroll down.
ffrotty Nov 12, 2024 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by s1borg:
As found out in other threads, the best thing to do is 100 to Gen Power Exponent and all other point to Common Exponent, everything else is useless.

I just changed my setup to this and lost EP/s so it depends on where you are in the game / which animals you have.

I'm around 120 total lab points and 23 animals and it was a 50% reduction.

Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:
Originally posted by Moonlight:
IP gain is also good.

Its not. Lab should be rebalanced cuz anything but last 2 exponent upgrades are FAR inferior. Exponents simply boost everything else, IP included. Like why pick one, if you can pick everything?

Because if everything is weaker picking something that enhances everything can be less gain than picking something that enhances your one strong thing.

This clearly changes when you're full animal and fixating on supernova


Last edited by ffrotty; Nov 12, 2024 @ 8:57am
Dwane Dibbley Nov 12, 2024 @ 9:43am 
Originally posted by ffrotty:
Originally posted by s1borg:
As found out in other threads, the best thing to do is 100 to Gen Power Exponent and all other point to Common Exponent, everything else is useless.

I just changed my setup to this and lost EP/s so it depends on where you are in the game / which animals you have.

I'm around 120 total lab points and 23 animals and it was a 50% reduction.

Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:

Its not. Lab should be rebalanced cuz anything but last 2 exponent upgrades are FAR inferior. Exponents simply boost everything else, IP included. Like why pick one, if you can pick everything?

Because if everything is weaker picking something that enhances everything can be less gain than picking something that enhances your one strong thing.

This clearly changes when you're full animal and fixating on supernova

Ofcourse if you go for this dumb "100 to gen exponent and rest to other one" bs, it wont work. You have to find good balance between too, which is pretty variable. Common exponent should be generaly higher then generator exponent. There was the point where i went 50:50, but most of the time i was between 30:70 and 20:80 ratio.

If you dont know whats best for you, reset lab points, let the game run thru initial rush and once its abit stable and slow, try adding 1 point to one or other and check what gives you more gain. Then put like 10% of your points into stronger upgrade and do 1 point test again.

With 120 points, i would try 20:100 split.
Get a Cleu Nov 12, 2024 @ 6:20pm 
Originally posted by Moonlight:
Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:

Its not. Lab should be rebalanced cuz anything but last 2 exponent upgrades are FAR inferior. Exponents simply boost everything else, IP included. Like why pick one, if you can pick everything?
Well IP gain gains me more EP than the other ones. The others are better for supernova then?

For a small window IP gains more EP than the others, once you hit a wall grinding out pets then it no longer will provide more EP than splitting between gen/common exp.
ffrotty Nov 15, 2024 @ 9:47pm 
yup i hit the breakpoint where gen/common was all that matters at slightly after the point where i could get giraffe (x10bil to ip gain) and cow which multiplies ep gain by number of eternities. at that point it goes from EP gain and an even spread being 3x more, to just having the gen/common being 3x more
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