Is Roottreemania much more difficult for others?

[tmaddox]

I just started it earlier today and I am struggling much much more to get this chapter going than I did with the main story.

I am sure at some point I will find a missing link that will unclog the drain but until then I just keep revisiting evidence and searches wondering what I may have missed.

[gg.nadrewod]

It feels like there are a lot more uses of periodicals frequently in Roottreemania, which makes it more tedious to search everything since there isn't a quick one-button "highlight clue and periodical search" button.

When in doubt, use the duck. I know that you can still get achievements using the duck (not sure about the "Loose Ends" achievements purely because I don't know what I'm missing in the base game...), and you can exit out of the duck pop-up without getting to the "blatant instruction" step

[dubesor]

I mean there is now more options.

First name and last name are now separate, meaning you don't get freebies with just knowing 1 part anymore, must know both.

More outlets are introduced. There are now versioned results (old&new).

I think the pictures are much easier to assign than in the first case, and the evidence is more spread. I think it was easier without massive information dumps (e.g. Laura's books). Overall it's probably a bit harder but not much more so, at least for me.

[sylviastuurman]

Yes, I agree, it is much more difficult because of the periodicals and the names.
Also, it would have been a bit easier if the history of the searches in The Roottrees are dead would have been present!

[Evil Trout]

A lot of people find the first few key relatives hard to lock but gain some steam after that. Keep at it!

[tmaddox]

Originally posted by Evil Trout:

A lot of people find the first few key relatives hard to lock but gain some steam after that. Keep at it!

Yeah definitely hoping that will be the case,

Originally posted by gg.nadrewod:

When in doubt, use the duck.

I did not use the duck a single time in the original story and I would like to try for that goal again in the Roottreemania so I am avoiding those until it is choice between using them and just giving up.

[Dave Mongoose]

As others have said, Periodicals are used much more. You also need to repeat certain lookups you did for the original story.

It felt to me like there were more bottlenecks in Roottreemania; where you need to find one crucial clue to open up an avenue for progress.

[tmaddox]

Originally posted by Dave Mongoose:

As others have said, Periodicals are used much more. You also need to repeat certain lookups you did for the original story.

It felt to me like there were more bottlenecks in Roottreemania; where you need to find one crucial clue to open up an avenue for progress.

Yeah, I found two more periodicals this morning and wandered down the Anonymom wormhole but still have not progressed. I keep running into dead ends (at least hey seem that way to me).

I plan to keep chugging away at it, a little at a time.

[Seeker]

I derailed once I needed to confirm blood relatives. Not sure why since I rarely sought advice from the duck, except that maybe I wasn't paying as much attention as I would have liked.

At this point I'm probably going to start over and try again. See if I understand what I missed.

Edit: Nevermind! Finally got it sorted out!

[TricTrac]

Roottreemania has
- longer texts
- more texts that go nowhere
- longer jump chains until you get to something useful
- single use periodicals hidden in a block of text

definitely much harder

[tmaddox]

I am pretty well stuck at the beginning still. While I have definitely found several new publications to search I still feel like I am missing the one publication or search that will just open the flood gates for me.

[williamrigby79]

When I started Roottreemania it seemed basically impossible, but after I completed the first four profiles I got a bunch of new evidence which allowed me to actually start filling out the family tree properly. I haven't finished the game yet but it feels like I just need to think things through properly.

[celia_equus]

I used the duck a bit more, since yes, names are separate and dates are more important, and some information had to be researched again to find updates, so that meant that sometimes I was putting stuff in the wrong place or had the wrong surname. But honestly, if you like these types of games you'll probably relish the challenge. And the duck is still helpful!

[R Type]

luckily everything important is capitalised and spider searching specific stuff usually lets you know when you should look at a periodical instead, but the text is denser while the parts you need are much more spread out so it's comparatively very tiring to read and easier to lose track of where you came from or what threads you need to check out if you're not taking careful notes.

since i was very very slack with my rootrees are dead run, i have terrible habits going in to mania. i'd imagine it's about six times more effort or so simply trying to remember everything instead of having thoughtfully laid out notes.

i appreciate the little stories around each person, sometimes finding them is delightful, but i don't feel like any texts were as thoughtfully designed as life between wars which was certainly an info dump but kind of unfolded as you played.

[melindusty]

I used the hint system more in this part of game, but I don't know if that was because I was genuinely having more difficulty or if I just had less patience because this game had me in a chokehold and I had real life things I needed to do.

I did miss one big realization namely the fact that Guy's mistresses that had his kids shared initials with the new 5Piece flavors he was "developing", but it didn't keep me from lighting upon the final truth, just with less context. I actually liked that I could miss something and still come to a correct conclusion!

[tmaddox]

I'm just going to have to rely on the damn duck.

Here are some things I am stuck on

5Peez - Felix or David? I would assume the latter
5Peez mom - Fellowes or is there a maiden name I am supposed to find
5Peez Dad - Obviously Guy so that is really the one I am confident about

I make the assumption that Elias is the first family member based on the Who is Elizabeth info

I went down the whole Sisley Sanchez and Picotree wormhole but at this stage it appears to be a dead end, at least until I discover more.

Foound out about Antonellis and the Garlands but that lead got me no more concrete evidence except Christine as another possible Guy conquest but which one?.

I really do feel like the difficulty to start this chapter out is so much more instense. To be able to get through the first part of the game without a single hint (until the envelope data) and get so stumped by the beginning of this chapter is frustrating.