Is anyone doing a guide for the game?

[kawaiineko333]

Cause as much as I'm enjoying a 90s version of Return of the Obra Din, but with less ghost ship shenanigans... I do need some handholding now and then.

[Hastings]

I would say the rubber ducky is amazing and helps as an in game guide

[Lionheartwolf]

I will say the ducky can be helpful if you are really just looking for any random bit of additional data, or maybe at the very end where there is just a few tiny things you might be stuck on, but a guide would be more focused and allow you to look for something specific to where you were stuck.

Of the few times I used the duck it wasn't helpful, and I wished I hadn't. Often it would direct me to something I already knew, but might be missing a small but uncritical detail.

So for example, I'm looking for a specific brother's occupation, and just stuck. The duck might help me find a missing publication for a completely different character on a branch of a tree I mostly completed, but might be missing an additional photo for. So, I'm still stuck, and worst still, it might have just solved something I might have been able to solve on my own, but I just wasn't looking for at that moment.

The "intuition" numbers I also felt were also pretty frustrating. A good example would be the city council flyer. (Most people who completed this part should immediate know what im talking about.)

Without spoiling anything, while it's technically true you can find a lot of information with it, and the intuition numbers will give you that information, some answers are so far removed from the actual piece of evidence nobody would reasonably think to look there for it.

Once you get all the relevant information from it, you dont think to go back and see how some completely unrelated character on the opposite end of the family tree could be linked to it. So it will say you can unlock 5 more things, but with no obvious indication of who, how, or where it's pretty meaningless. In this way I feel it becomes less about detective and deduction work, and more about systematically searching for every name/place/item in every available database until you get a hit.

Again, a guide could also be more direct, and specific about exactly what you are missing in that situation without the duck unintentionally spoiling half the game.

[tewi]

wouldn't that defeat the entire purpose of this game? also, someone buy me it. thank

[Lionheartwolf]

Originally posted by tewi:

wouldn't that defeat the entire purpose of this game? also, someone buy me it. thank

If you abuse it sure, but that is a bit extreme.

I'd like to think people know the difference between following a guide and playing a game, and know when to use it sparingly. Nobody wants to spend close to 20 bucks on a game they can finish in 5 minutes because they are just filling in blanks.

[Nixis]

How much do you want this to be clues and how much do you want it to be 'its X, you find the info at location Y'? The latter would be pretty easy to put together... the former... given the nonlinear nature of this game and how you explore your way through it, that might take a lot more time!

[RobOda]

Originally posted by Nixis:

How much do you want this to be clues and how much do you want it to be 'its X, you find the info at location Y'? The latter would be pretty easy to put together... the former... given the nonlinear nature of this game and how you explore your way through it, that might take a lot more time!

I think the best Obra Dinn guide basically pointed out each clue and the logic behind it, and therefore how it linked to the person in question.

The difficulty with guide writing for a game like this is basically organising the evidence, going through it in sequential order and ensuring you 100% complete each piece before moving on.

I'm sure we've all read one piece of evidence that had 100 clues in it, but also 4-5 extra searchable terms, that lead to a chain of evidence, and as a result we miss out on something because we're off down the rabbit hole. That's a very messy and complicated procedure, and it would make for an extremely messy method of creating a guide too.

A very organised guide writer could tackle it. It won't be me though! :P

[tewi]

Originally posted by RobOda:

Originally posted by Nixis:

How much do you want this to be clues and how much do you want it to be 'its X, you find the info at location Y'? The latter would be pretty easy to put together... the former... given the nonlinear nature of this game and how you explore your way through it, that might take a lot more time!

I think the best Obra Dinn guide basically pointed out each clue and the logic behind it, and therefore how it linked to the person in question.

The difficulty with guide writing for a game like this is basically organising the evidence, going through it in sequential order and ensuring you 100% complete each piece before moving on.

I'm sure we've all read one piece of evidence that had 100 clues in it, but also 4-5 extra searchable terms, that lead to a chain of evidence, and as a result we miss out on something because we're off down the rabbit hole. That's a very messy and complicated procedure, and it would make for an extremely messy method of creating a guide too.

A very organised guide writer could tackle it. It won't be me though! :P

the best "guide" for obra dinn for me was a spreadsheet with an easy way to comment on nameless faces

[DiscoZombie]

The guide you wanted was just published, and it's exactly what I'd hope for in such a guide: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409387055

[Eauxps I. Fourgott]

I'm working now on a similar in-depth guide for Roottreemania! It will probably take me several days to finish, though.

[DiscoZombie]

Originally posted by Eauxps I. Fourgott:

I'm working now on a similar in-depth guide for Roottreemania! It will probably take me several days to finish, though.

Awesome, thanks and good luck! I want to see how the plot plays out and I don't think by brain is up to tackling the harder expansion, so I need a guide

[Eauxps I. Fourgott]

Two Roottreemania guides by separate authors are now available!

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3413169504
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3411530494