Most balanced WW2 operation?

[Fire.al]

Well i've played a few of the ww2 operations on the russian side, and now i wanted to try the german one, but in a couple i've started it seems german are truly OP to the point i could simply order all my troops to attack then enemy positions then do not give any other order for the whole battle and still win with very limited casualities, someone can point me to the ww2 era operations that can offer some more challenge for the german side?

[Spud]

There is no real balancing in this game in the traditional sense, if one side was OP in the actual historical engagement then they'll be OP here too.

Most of the campaigns covered in this game are based on operations where the Germans had a clear advantage in terms of men and equipment.

Are you playing with hardest game settings? it is possible to slightly increase the difficulty by giving the AI some advantages.

1.03 Game difficulty - hard
5.01 Always show enemies - disable
5.02 Enemy resources - 150%
5.03 Experienced enemy - enable

The forthcoming Mius Front will turn the tables though and the Germans will find the better organised and equipped Soviets much more of a challenge.

[Fire.al]

Yeah i'm aware of that, shouldnt have used "OP" since is the wrong term, i love what the devs have done in regard to historical accuracy, i was only asking for the mission were this advantage was less pronounced since would make playing the German more enjoyable for me.

[Spud]

Originally posted by Fire.al:

Yeah i'm aware of that, shouldnt have used "OP" since is the wrong term, i love what the devs have done in regard to historical accuracy, i was only asking for the mission were this advantage was less pronounced since would make playing the German more enjoyable for me.

The hardest operation playing as the Germans in my opinion is the Taranovka breakout that you get with the base game as part of Op Star.

[Fire.al]

i'll try that then.. thanks

[Spud]

Originally posted by Fire.al:

i'll try that then.. thanks

be interested how it goes : )

[Fire.al]

Originally posted by Guetapens:

Originally posted by Fire.al:

i'll try that then.. thanks

be interested how it goes : )

ahah ok i'll update this thread with news :)

[Fire.al]

16 Feb 1943 7:00
during the night our troops advanced westward without meeting resistance, our deposit in Borki has been attacked by the Soviets, but they were repelled with heavy loses, the also lost 1 matilda tank and 3 apc in the assault. We plan the continue moving westward to meet the incoming SS division, while assuming defensive position in taranovka to halt the enemy advace from the south.

[Spud]

Originally posted by Fire.al:

16 Feb 1943 7:00
during the night our troops advanced westward without meeting resistance, our deposit in Borki has been attacked by the Soviets, but they were repelled with heavy loses, the also lost 1 matilda tank and 3 apc in the assault. We plan the continue moving westward to meet the incoming SS division, while assuming defensive position in taranovka to halt the enemy advace from the south.

so far so good : )

This forum needs more AAR's

[Fire.al]

16 Feb 1943 11:00 Near Taranovka
At dawn the Soviet troops stationated in the village of Bespalovka tried to flank our troops on the hills south-west of Taranovka, they were ambushed and eliminated almost without casualties on our side, we also managed to occupy the village without firing a shot.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=444706683

Shortly after the order was given to liberate the southern part of Taranovka that has been occupied by the enemy during the night, we were confident of our superiority given the previous success and we met very limited resistance initially managing to liberate South Taranovka easily, was so decided to separate our troops and keep advancing toward the others objectives south of the town, but the enemy was all but defeated, they concentrated their forces on the right flank launching a furious counterattack, also supported by their long range artillery, the fight lasted an hour and even if in the end we managed to repel their assault we suffered heavy casualities with one entire platoon almost annihilated.

At the same time the enemy was launching another offensive on Borki, this time with the support on another tank platoon, the fight was bitter, our AT rifles unable to damage their tanks, they tried to push from the wood north of the village but in the end the enemy was forced to retreat with heavy casualities, but ours loses where even greater, more than half of our men defending the village are dead or wounded, the commander dont think they will resist another armored assault, relieve from the SS division is more needed than ever.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=444706724
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=444706766
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=444706802

Operation brefieng at 7:00
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=444706657

Results at 11:00
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=444706878

[Spud]

awesome : )

[Fire.al]

i'll go to sleep now.. i'll continue tomorrow.. you can check out my older graviteam screenshots if you want, they were taken during the Shilovo (not sure actually) campaing on the Russian side some of them were quite cool :)

[FlashBurn]

Originally posted by Guetapens:

Originally posted by Fire.al:

Yeah i'm aware of that, shouldnt have used "OP" since is the wrong term, i love what the devs have done in regard to historical accuracy, i was only asking for the mission were this advantage was less pronounced since would make playing the German more enjoyable for me.

The hardest operation playing as the Germans in my opinion is the Taranovka breakout that you get with the base game as part of Op Star.

Anything with the German 320th infantry is hard. That is indeed the hardest German campaign.


The most in a game sense balanced campaign is Shilovo. At this point in the war, the REd Army was on the fence still recovering from the 1941 attack. With only minor wins here and there. Well...maybe not so minor with the first winter offensive. Historically it was a case of battle hardened Germans fighting what was in effect a new army with low experience and often incredibly bad leadership. The fights that happened where often a result of really bad choices at the top level of Soviet leadership. Stalins no retreat crap in modern war meant units had to sit there, be enveloped and destroyed. Instead of pulling back and manuvering. But they certainly figured that out and stopped that crap by mid war. At which point the balance of power turned on its head. Which Mius should show. There we should have more even fights I should think.

Germans, except for 320th infantry are the best to learn on. Graduation is winning as the Red Army. Which is usually possible in all campaigns, but you have fight smart.

[Superfly]

The hardest operation playing as the Germans in my opinion is the Taranovka breakout that you get with the base game as part of Op Star."

really I am surprised that is the most difficult its the first on the list of missions. I assumed this was the easiest and best place to start :s

[Spud]

Originally posted by Superfly:

The hardest operation playing as the Germans in my opinion is the Taranovka breakout that you get with the base game as part of Op Star."

really I am surprised that is the most difficult its the first on the list of missions. I assumed this was the easiest and best place to start :s

It's certainly the most difficult as the Germans, but not the most difficult of all.

No matter what campaign you begin with, your first battle will be at night, for me that's something I love about the game, right from the beginning I was taken right out of my comfort zone, confused and ultimately utterly defeated.

If I'd started with a daytime battle as part of an easy to win campaign I might have felt cheated by the absence of a real challenge. instead I was slapped across the face and left in no doubt that this game was very different and could be far more challenging than anything similar i'd played before.

[Superfly]

hehe...its a mental game. love it. Even the controls, never mind the sounds, are an eerie portent of impending doom.