TIGER VS RUSSIAN MEDIUM TANK

[PANZER GMBH.]

I've documented myself and it seems that it was really difficult to destroy this tank. I've tried many strategies, like getting back the tiger and to be honest in some occasions worked as the tanks turret is very very slow but yet the projectiles bounce off the armor. I think that the only way to deal with them is like in real live, a projectle trough the sigh or munition. How do you deal with the tiger?

[FlashBurn]

The 45mm m1942 anti tank gun at closer ranges will punch threw at decent range. Well with APCR ammo if it has any. IF tigers are about look to see if any of the 45mm guns are of this sort and keep it safe. But the 76.2mm gun on the T34 has massive issues with tigers. Usually just try and mobility kill the thing and leave it alone myself. The amount of ammo it takes to kill a tiger is crazy unless it gets lucky.

[Maujurd]

Mius Front will have tigers? This tank is invecible here, in GTOS.

PS: playing as russian vs tiger = dont cry :)

PS2: 45mm is BB rifle to shoot versus tigers xD
PS3: i think tiger was better heavy tank WII,ie, Tiger II was best WW2 tank. Maybe IS2 was third. I think...
Of course i m not making reference to destroyers tank.

[FlashBurn]

Velocity + tungston = kill. Well potential to kill.

So the 45mm M42 with apcr ammo has enough power to get threw a tigers armor. Note... this is the long barrel 45mm at gun. Not the smaller one. That one is like throwing beebees at a tiger.

And even today a small dense projectile fired at hyper velocity at a modern heavy tank could kill it. After all, tanks now a days fire tungston and uranium darts at each other.


Folks for some reason equate width of the barrel with "power". While this is true if your firing HE or HEAT rounds, it is totally unneeded if firing small dense things. Which is why modern tank guns are large bore for the HE and HEAT, but fire a small bore saboted darts at hard targets. There is no reason that a modern 60 - 75mm hyper velocity anti armor weapon can not work to kill tanks. They get made now and then as experiments. But their HE shell either SUCKS or the velocity is way to high for effective use of them. Making them a vary limited use weapon.

But its velocity that kills armor when talking about solid projectiles.

[XOskeletal]

I killed a Tiger in one game by ambushing it with 7 light tanks, they hit it so many times at close range the crew just bailed lol :)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=461242735

[FlashBurn]

Originally posted by xoskeletal:

I killed a Tiger in one game by ambushing it with 7 light tanks, they hit it so many times at close range the crew just bailed lol :)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=461242735

Is this with T70's with year set around 1943? Some had 45mm APCR ammo I am guessing.


NM.... matilda 2's? Probably broke so much stuff on the tiger that the crew bailed. The 2 pounder gun was really out classed, but it was a deticated anti tank weapon. Even if totally out classed by late 41/42.

[Stealysteve]

Yea and I've had ENTIRE German units get wiped out by a single KV-1, even when the German units were equipped with several Paks and Pz. IIIs (I know, they didnt stand a chance). But the fact of the matter is, sometimes you CAN'T win every battle and destroy every enemy unit. There are some hard targets that can't be destroyed with your current equipment, not at least without difficulty. So instead of looking at the German tank as being too hard to kill (I mean do you want them to unrealistically nerf it?? NO!) you should devise more creative ways to deal with this problem. Do you think the Soviet's in WW2 said, "Hey guys, stop the war real quick, we need to talk about this whole Tiger tank thing. its just too good against our AT capabilities and we can't destroy them from the front with ease! How about you guys drive back to Berlin, exchange that 88mm gun with a 30mm, drop several tonnes of armor plating, and drive back so we make sure everything is nice and 'balanced'". People who are concerned about balance in realistically accurate games literally drive me insane lol, stupidity has no bounds.

[XOskeletal]

Originally posted by FlashBurn:

Originally posted by xoskeletal:

I killed a Tiger in one game by ambushing it with 7 light tanks, they hit it so many times at close range the crew just bailed lol :)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=461242735

Is this with T70's with year set around 1943? Some had 45mm APCR ammo I am guessing.


NM.... matilda 2's? Probably broke so much stuff on the tiger that the crew bailed. The 2 pounder gun was really out classed, but it was a deticated anti tank weapon. Even if totally out classed by late 41/42.

Yes, my mistake, 7 MKII medium tanks (2 pounder). Still Illustrates how Tigers aren't invincible.

[PANZER GMBH.]

Originally posted by Stealysteve:

Yea and I've had ENTIRE German units get wiped out by a single KV-1, even when the German units were equipped with several Paks and Pz. IIIs (I know, they didnt stand a chance). But the fact of the matter is, sometimes you CAN'T win every battle and destroy every enemy unit. There are some hard targets that can't be destroyed with your current equipment, not at least without difficulty. So instead of looking at the German tank as being too hard to kill (I mean do you want them to unrealistically nerf it?? NO!) you should devise more creative ways to deal with this problem. Do you think the Soviet's in WW2 said, "Hey guys, stop the war real quick, we need to talk about this whole Tiger tank thing. its just too good against our AT capabilities and we can't destroy them from the front with ease! How about you guys drive back to Berlin, exchange that 88mm gun with a 30mm, drop several tonnes of armor plating, and drive back so we make sure everything is nice and 'balanced'". People who are concerned about balance in realistically accurate games literally drive me insane lol, stupidity has no bounds.

You are right, in fact what is really making this game so realisitc and good is the fact that tanks are treated like they really were not like in other game were ok let's make the tiger super powerfull as he is the boss. It happened that once i've anbushed a tiger with some at infantry (obviosly I tought I will lose) but one hit the sight of the driver and the crew bail out! I thought yes it could happen in war, the driver doesn't have a sight anymore so it's a sitting target but offcourse that was a lucky shoot.

[FlashBurn]

I had one of my tigers once killed with a 14.5mm AT rifle.... Freak shot that one... Killed an M60 tank with a .50 cal too. Wierd bounce of a shot that somehow got lucky. ANd the amount of tanks I have killed with satchel charges is quite high when I can pull off an evil ambush. The heavy sorts are tuff nuts. Never killed a tiger or KV1 with satchels out right. But wrecked them so bad they where pretty much worthless.