Prince of Persia... Why is he African? Persians ain't black.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh FireMage:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Eternal Victory:

Okay, so if a fish hatches from it's egg in a stable, is the fish now considered a horse?

This is still race not nationality.

The word Nation is derived from the Greek word "ETNOS" which means race/people.

Nationality is synonimous with Ethnicity and Race.

So I ask again, Is a fish hatched in a stable considered a horse?

[FireMage]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Eternal Victory:

Diposting pertama kali oleh FireMage:

This is still race not nationality.

The word Nation is derived from the Greek word "ETNOS" which means race/people.

Nationality is synonimous with Ethnicity and Race.

So I ask again, Is a fish hatched in a stable considered a horse?

A fish is a fish. An animal can be wild or a pet. You can have a wild fish or a pet fish. Both are possible.
A black person is a black person.
A Persian is a Persian
You can be a black Persian or a black whatever.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh FireMage:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Eternal Victory:

The word Nation is derived from the Greek word "ETNOS" which means race/people.

Nationality is synonimous with Ethnicity and Race.

So I ask again, Is a fish hatched in a stable considered a horse?

A fish is a fish. An animal can be wild or a pet. You can have a wild fish or a pet fish. Both are possible.
A black person is a black person.
A Persian is a Persian
You can be a black Persian or a black whatever.

No, your Nationality is tied to your DNA.

You cannot be fully Persian and be a black person. It is physically/genetically impossible.
Half black, maybe. But he would never be fully Persian.

But a black man living in Persia during this time of history was debunked in previous comments and is frankly ridiculous. There were no blacks in Persia during the Sassanian period. So it's still silly that the main character is black.

If I have a son in Japan with a wife who is of the same Nationality as me, my son is not Japanese, his genetics would be from me and his Nationality would still be the Nation/People that I come from because it's tied to Genetics, not where you're born.

A Black Bear born on the North Pole is not a Polar Bear.

This is basic logic, it's so clear that a child could understand it, yet you struggle, probably because of indoctrination and ignorant poor education. I blame your school system for misinforming you on genetics and nationality.

[FireMage]

I just don't have a problem with having a black protagonist in a game set in magical Persia. It does not feel forced (to me) nor does it seam out of place.

You son could change nationality. I have no idea if he could get Japanese papers but he could. Colour of skin means practically nothing. Culture is not genetics.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh FireMage:

I just don't have a problem with having a black protagonist in a game set in magical Persia. It does not feel forced (to me) nor does it seam out of place.

You son could change nationality. I have no idea if he could get Japanese papers but he could. Colour of skin means practically nothing. Culture is not genetics.

It's like you can't read or something. Nationality literally means race/people.
Your RACE.... Is dependant..... On DNA.......

The root word..... For Nationality..... Is the Greek word.... *ETNOS*
*ETNOS* means..... PEOPLE/RACE......

You cannot change your nationality... You literally cannot change your DNA...

You are literally choosing to ignore scientific fact in order to have your fictional reality. This is what we call "delusion".

Genetics also define waaaay more than just skincolor. I am going to assume that you never went to school at all at this point.

[FireMage]

Ethnicity is not the same thing as nationality.

You can be an American (nationality) of Japanese origin (ethnicity). It's your upbringing language and culture that defines nationality.

Assume what you want - we're all just random people on the internet arguing about meaningless things.

Game still is good.

[WolfEisberg]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Eternal Victory:

Diposting pertama kali oleh FireMage:

A fish is a fish. An animal can be wild or a pet. You can have a wild fish or a pet fish. Both are possible.
A black person is a black person.
A Persian is a Persian
You can be a black Persian or a black whatever.

No, your Nationality is tied to your DNA.

You cannot be fully Persian and be a black person. It is physically/genetically impossible.
Half black, maybe. But he would never be fully Persian.

But a black man living in Persia during this time of history was debunked in previous comments and is frankly ridiculous. There were no blacks in Persia during the Sassanian period. So it's still silly that the main character is black.

There is no time period in this game, it's a mish mash of 700 years of history put into 1 time period in this game, and taking liberties with some people in history.

The Kushan and city of Persopolis never existed at the same time, they are separated by 700 years. The queen in this game is based on Thomyris who fought against Cyrus and Darius, Darius being king of Persia 700 years before the Kushans. Darius in the game also created Persopolis just like in real life.
Immortals were also foot soldiers in the Achaemenid Empire

So we have these markers in the game

Achaemenid Empire :

Darius
Persopolis
Immortals
Thomyris

Sassanian period, 500 years after Achaemenid:

Kushans

So we got one single thing out of place in this game compared to everything else in the game.

During the Achaemenid empire, the empire did stretch into Africa including parts where black people literally lived.

So yes, using the time periods in this game that make up the majority of the time period used in the game black people can very much exist in the Persian empire.

So you are wrong in saying it was debunked it was not at all, not even close.

By the way, you people would have had a huge hissy fit over the use of black people in the 2 TV series Hercules and Xena from the mid 1990s. For example Helen of Troy was played by an African American.

[The.BARDIA]

yes we are not black

[Malio]

Thinly veiled racism, disguised as "just asking a question". Completely transparent and pathetic. Grow up crybaby.

[JOKER]

Its Ubisoft, we all know why he had to be african and why they (ubisoft) care that much about skin color

[Zaxx]

Diposting pertama kali oleh WolfEisberg:

During the Achaemenid empire, the empire did stretch into Africa including parts where black people literally lived.

So yes, using the time periods in this game that make up the majority of the time period used in the game black people can very much exist in the Persian empire.

Not only that but the Immortals of the game are very much multicultural anyway, for example Menolias is from Thrace, Neith is from Kush etc. The Persian Empire's army was famously multicultural too, it was a hodgepodge of different ethnicities and that's what the game is trying to represent so Sargon looking like he does makes sense.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Zaxx:

Diposting pertama kali oleh WolfEisberg:

During the Achaemenid empire, the empire did stretch into Africa including parts where black people literally lived.

So yes, using the time periods in this game that make up the majority of the time period used in the game black people can very much exist in the Persian empire.

Not only that but the Immortals of the game are very much multicultural anyway, for example Menolias is from Thrace, Neith is from Kush etc. The Persian Empire's army was famously multicultural too, it was a hodgepodge of different ethnicities and that's what the game is trying to represent so Sargon looking like he does makes sense.

This game plays out in the Sassanian period where the Persian Empire was nowhere near Africa.

This is not Achamenid Persia....

People here need to read up on history and geography.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh The.BARDIA:

yes we are not black

According to Ubisoft, apparently you are black

[Squirrel With Acorn]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Eternal Victory:

Diposting pertama kali oleh The.BARDIA:

yes we are not black

According to Ubisoft, apparently you are black :laughing_yeti:

Except they didn't make any Persian race character in the game black.

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Diposting pertama kali oleh Purple:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Eternal Victory:

According to Ubisoft, apparently you are black

Except they didn't make any Persian race character in the game black.

Black people didn't exist in Persia during the Sassanian period....