French -> German Translations

[RunDee]

Hello,

Optional credits to the developers ;) :

first of all thanks to the developers for "Influent". It's a great way to (re-)learn and memorize, everyday vocabs. Although I already had knowledge in French through school and language courses, I realized that the courses were mostly focused on grammar (which of course is very important) but I didn't knew most of the words I discovered on Influent. So I think it's an amazing addition to a regular language course, where you learn the "rules"/grammar (which in contrary lacks in Influent).

Ok, but now to the topic: I'm a native German speaker, and realized, that some of the French words I already knew have a strange or unfitting German translation (regarding the context in which you find the them!). I will list them here and add an alternative translation, which in my opinion would fit more. And if you're a native French and/or German speaker please feel free to correct me or add you're own suggestions!

For some of the ingame translations I also add a French suggestion after [->].

French word	My German Suggestion	Ingame German Translation -> French suggestion	Found on
glacé	eiskalt, frostig	kalt -> froid	Freezer
s'asseoir	sich (hin)setzen	sitzen	Chair
froid	kalt	kühl -> frais	Refrigerator
la verre	(Trink-)Glas	Becher -> mug, gobelet	Cup
la grille de four	(Back-)Ofenrost	Gestell	Oven
la petite casserole	kleiner (Koch-)Topf	Pfanne -> la poêle	Sauce pan
la terre	Erde	Schmutz -> la saleté	Plant
étaler	streichen (meaning: to spread sth. on a bread)	sich verbreiten	Knife

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EDIT: I'm still unsure about the correct translations of gratter. Found it on the guitar. "Kratzen/to scrape" is one meaning, and like mentioned below "schrubben/to scrub" is another, but they don't really fit into this particular guitar context. "Schrammeln" seems indeed correct, according to wiktionary. (https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/schrammeln)

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I haven't found all of the words yet, maybe I'll add some more suggestions. And like I already said, feel free to correct me, If I'm wrong :)

Cheers
Chief05

[asmodeal]

Native french speaker here.

Well the stuff you find in the freezer/Tiefkhültruhe is considered "congelé/surgelé" in French.
"Glacé" is not really used in this regard.

Then although the products bought for the refrigerator/Khülschrank are technically considered as "produits frais", most people would rather say that something is "froid" if it is in the fridge although technically "frais" is more appropriate.

I am using the English>German version for comparison and in the game Scrub/Schruben is used for the sponge and you would indeed say "gratter" or maybe "récurer" with it.

We don't really have the kind of hard plastic cup that is often used in the USA. Technically a glass made of plastic Glas aus Kunsstoff/Plastk would be a "gobelet" indeed or a "gobelet plastique" but same way as you might say Glas for a cup made of plastic we might also call that a "verre" in French.

In the english/german version it is indeed Gestell for the oven rack.

Again in this version we have Bratpfanne for the frying pan which indeed be "la poële" in French.
However the regular pans are just named as "casserole" and unless you are a professional cook you will not make a distinction of size unless you have several and you want to ask someone to pick a smaller one.


We also have Dirt/Schmutz which seems weird as indeed it is more earth/soil that is used with plants.
In French you would say there is some "terre" inside a flower pot for sure.

[RunDee]

Thank you asmodeal for your comment and explanations!

glacé : Indeed. Also I think glacé is "colder" than just cold, and in general we say "froid" for "kalt". While "frais" is just "kühl".

gratter: Ah well, "schrubben" regarding the sponge makes sense! But IIRC I found the verb on the guitar, which was "schrammeln"... never heard of this word myself, but I think they meant sth. like "playing on the guitar" in a sense, that you don't know how to play it correctly :-P

verre: Yes I think It's confusing in the game itself, as it is translated as "Becher", which could mislead players into thinking, that verre is specifically used for plastic cups.

grille de four: Hm, I frankly never heard or used "Gestell" for oven rack. I think "Ofenrost" is the more common german word for it, as you also find this term in cooking instructions.

petite casserole: Like you said "casserole" just means "(Koch-)Topf". So I don't know why they translated it as "Pfanne", which in general means "frying pan".

[asmodeal]

Oh so it was for the guitar, well as strange as it seems we indeed stay "gratter" for strumming the guitar. Well I am no musician but I think you either pinch, tap or brush the cords and in case of the last one it would be "frotter" but often "gratter" is used as well which is sort of slangy way to mean you play the guitar, same way you are describing it for the German word as well, but is also often used to describe the action of brushing the cords nonetheless.

Well Kochtopf is a cooking pot and would be either "marmite" or "fait-tout" (faitout) while a pan has a handle.
So you would just Pfanne for Bratpfanne and you would call Topf the pans/sauce pans and the cooking pot you would say Kochtopf?

[RunDee]

Exactly, "Pfanne" is correlated to "frying pan", and "(Koch-)Topf" to "cooking pots".
But I'm still confused about the meaning of marmite. Is there a difference between "marmite" and "casserole"? Perhaps in German there is no distinction between these two.

Btw. I just found out that in Switzerland instead of "Topf" you say "Pfanne" for cooking pots (and "Bratpfanne" specifically for frying pans), which is very uncommon in Standard German (Hochdeutsch). So I suppose the translator for Influent could've been a swiss person.

If that's indeed the case, maybe the developer should have a look in these, because Swiss German and Standard German isn't always the same :)

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfanne
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topf

[Robatato]

Wait so what's the verdict on this? I mean, my friend is a native German speaker and he translated the whole game and did the voice overs so I might want to ask him directly but if there's something wrong, I'd really like to get it fixed. Can you give me another solid list of proposed changes? Thanks for putting in the time to make sure everything is accurate!

[RunDee]

Thanks Robatato for looking into this thread!

I hope there will be more replies/input from native french/german speakers regarding these translations, because it's based on my basic French knowledge and my native Standard German knowledge. I can't guarantee that my translation suggestions are 100% correct (and I don't want to make it worse haha :D ). But thanks to asmodeal it's definitely much more clearer now.

Plus like I indirectly mentioned in my comments, there are different German dialects in Germany itself and of course there's also Austrian and Swiss German (e.g. the difference for "cooking pot" mentioned above).

Nothing against Swiss German, really :) But I think if someone wants to learn "Basic/General German" it's always a good idea to start with "Hochdeutsch" first :D

As for more suggestions, I haven't had the chance to find the last remaining 7 words or so^^ But of course I will add some more, if I have more.

[Robatato]

Originally posted by RunDee:

Thanks Robatato for looking into this thread!

I hope there will be more replies/input from native french/german speakers regarding these translations, because it's based on my basic French knowledge and my native Standard German knowledge. I can't guarantee that my translation suggestions are 100% correct (and I don't want to make it worse haha :D ). But thanks to asmodeal it's definitely much more clearer now.

Plus like I indirectly mentioned in my comments, there are different German dialects in Germany itself and of course there's also Austrian and Swiss German (e.g. the difference for "cooking pot" mentioned above).

Nothing against Swiss German, really :) But I think if someone wants to learn "Basic/General German" it's always a good idea to start with "Hochdeutsch" first :D

As for more suggestions, I haven't had the chance to find the last remaining 7 words or so^^ But of course I will add some more, if I have more.

Hey, just wanted to update you on the German language pack (7 years later). There is a brand new version of German that's just been released in the new update so hopefully all of these concerns have been fully addressed. Please give it a look and let me know what you think! :)

EDIT: The French language pack is still the same words though but the German words may have been changed such that the translations make more sense now.

[RunDee]

Originally posted by Armed and Gelatinous:

Originally posted by RunDee:

Thanks Robatato for looking into this thread!

I hope there will be more replies/input from native french/german speakers regarding these translations, because it's based on my basic French knowledge and my native Standard German knowledge. I can't guarantee that my translation suggestions are 100% correct (and I don't want to make it worse haha :D ). But thanks to asmodeal it's definitely much more clearer now.

Plus like I indirectly mentioned in my comments, there are different German dialects in Germany itself and of course there's also Austrian and Swiss German (e.g. the difference for "cooking pot" mentioned above).

Nothing against Swiss German, really :) But I think if someone wants to learn "Basic/General German" it's always a good idea to start with "Hochdeutsch" first :D

As for more suggestions, I haven't had the chance to find the last remaining 7 words or so^^ But of course I will add some more, if I have more.

Hey, just wanted to update you on the German language pack (7 years later). There is a brand new version of German that's just been released in the new update so hopefully all of these concerns have been fully addressed. Please give it a look and let me know what you think! :)

EDIT: The French language pack is still the same words though but the German words may have been changed such that the translations make more sense now.

Hi there! Woah crazy, I totally forgot about this thread...

That is really awesome, thanks a lot for the update and your work! And for your reply to a 7 year old post!

And I noticed, that we now have access to all languages - Now THAT is amazing! Can't wait to start Influent again! Thanks! :)