How would shark hacks even work?

[Krono]

Been watching some videos of the high level shark players, and I've noticed a number of people calling hacks. I'm sure this is flattering for those players, but it got me wondering... How would shark hacks even work? A diver could get wall hacks and aimbot or something, but what could a shark even do to hack?

[Requiem31]

Besides infinite stamina/health and speedhacking?...
Jawbot?

[Krono]

Publicado originalmente por Requiem31:

Besides infinite stamina/health and speedhacking?...
Jawbot?

What's jawbot?

[Cerebral Daemon]

Speedhack's one (and in Depth, inexperienced players would often think that because they've never seen a shark use lunges to frantically kill everyone in a room before), some players will sometime throw damage-related hackusations if the shark's playing Hammerhead or Thresher and the player doesn't know these have special ways to deal damage. Sometimes good Great Whites will be hackused of invincibility too, because divers will hear a different, metal-like sound when stabbing them (which comes from the GW's ability, not a hack). These are I'd say the most common, alongside the usual "You're thrashing way too fast!" or "You've increased your monitor's brightness!" hackusations.

The truth is, there isn't many ways hacks could be made for sharks. As far as I know, everything related to damage (both dealing and receiving) are handled server-side, which makes it nearly impossible to hack (at least, not without hacking the whole server; which, at that point, mere hacks would be the lesser of our concerns). Speedhacks have always been possible in every game and Depth's no exception, but the VAC system's plenty capable of dealing with that kind of hacking, which means it doesn't stay in the game all that long. As for thrashing and monitor hacks, well, neither of those really give any advantages (thrashing faster doesn't deal more damage, and a high brightness is merely blinding for the sharks). I can't even think of another way the game could be hacked, sooo...

[Krono]

That's kinda what I thought, interesting to know

[Cinnamoon_dragon]

I've been called a cheater by some player not so long time ago, funny thing about it was that this player has collected more than 5,000+ gold when the rest of his team only 0.. he unsuccessfully tried to kill me with the exploding harpoon..

But the real question, is it even possible to use hacks on a vac-secured server?
I thought that a cheater can be auto - banned for it.

[Krono]

Publicado originalmente por Static-ghost:

But the real question, is it even possible to use hacks on a vac-secured server?
I thought that a cheater can be auto - banned for it.

Well people (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥) try to program their hacks so they don't get detected by VAC, and even then I would imagine it would take time for them to get detected ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[yOu hAvE InVaDeD My 💗]

Publicado originalmente por Requiem31:

Besides infinite stamina/health and speedhacking?...
Jawbot?

your forgot controller hacks req.

[Requiem31]

I once saw someone report a bull player for a Health regen hack...
With video and all...
+1 for steps taken tho...

[Krono]

Publicado originalmente por Requiem31:

I once saw someone report a bull player for a Health regen hack...
With video and all...
+1 for steps taken tho...

When I was looking up videos on it I saw a "proof" video about a shark with supposed infinite health. Then I watched the video and it was just that the divers all sucked and couldn't shoot to (literally) save their lives

[Cerebral Daemon]

Publicado originalmente por Krono | Sin:

Publicado originalmente por Static-ghost:

But the real question, is it even possible to use hacks on a vac-secured server?
I thought that a cheater can be auto - banned for it.

Well people (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥) try to program their hacks so they don't get detected by VAC, and even then I would imagine it would take time for them to get detected ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yes, it's possible. When dealing with hacking, nothing's ever fully secure, hackers can always find a way in if they're A) skilled enough, and B) care enough to do it. However, VAC protection makes it far less likely to happen, since the level of skill needed to get through the protection is much higher than just hacking it the usual way (which means point A goes up), and as a result those skilled enough generally will want a motivation to proceed forward, which most often than not takes the form of monetary gain (which means, players who wanna hack need to pay for those hacks, which they generally won't do).

Also, VAC bans aren't instant. The VAC system is essentially a system of logs (information is merely being stored for later), the system simply checks the logs at some point and flags suspicious behavior / bans confirmed hackers. That's why VAC bans are often called "ban waves", because everyone gets banned at nearly the exact same moment (and that makes it immensely hard for those producing hacks to accurately know what they did wrong, since they can't know exactly which changes caused them to be detected). In other words, detection is instant but consequences aren't.

[Kashra Fall]

Publicado originalmente por Requiem31:

Besides infinite stamina/health and speedhacking?...
Jawbot?

I think an aimbot as a shark would actually work though. Would just kind of nullify the thrashing disorienting and make it to where you immediately target the next victim with no delay.

Speedhacking can definitely be a thing.

[Just Chill]

Record a video and it's fine.
When I encounter a hacker I actually don't bother about playing the game anymore, rather just recording his actions.

[α E-MAN-cipation Ω]

Publicado originalmente por flecka:

Publicado originalmente por Requiem31:

Besides infinite stamina/health and speedhacking?...
Jawbot?

your forgot controller hacks req.

This woman knows everything about hacks in this game. Just check her screenshots, she probably has a book full of hackusations by now.