help with key and wolfman

[Fishius]

i found the key that he wanted to the locked door in the lady's house(i used it myself to see whats inside) but now there is no option to give it to him. is this a bug?

[Wolfman_TTV]

No. He wanted the key for himself without you opening the door.
You have failed him, Meat.

Now he won't show you where the Doctor is. Because of that, you must kill the Hag who reeks of chickens to progress the story.

Curiosity is a first step into hell.

[MazyRun]

This is an interesting one because I feel like the way this mechanic works has changed a couple of times over the years (maybe unintentionally changed or intentionally changed). So I'm really curious as to what the correct/intended way this mechanic is supposed to work.

I'm convinced there was a time where if you used the key yourself, wolfman would not be happy (the NPC's knew you used the key). As such I concluded that there were always 3 options.. give the key to wolf, give the key to musician or use the key yourself (and you couldn't do a combination of 2 of those options because whoever uses the key exhausts the use of it)..

However, later I noticed that players would often say that they used the key for themselves and then gave it away after (to either party). I remember thinking that must be a bug because that wasn't how I remembered it.. but I did some re-testing and noticed they were right.

So now I'm wondering if, in v1.4, has it gone back to the way I remember it? where using the key yourself forfeits your chance of giving it away (and choosing a quest line).. or are you still able to use it yourself without any of the NPC's realising..

..and the real question is, which one of those options is the intended behaviour?

[Wolfman_TTV]

Intended one is when you open the door yourself, then Musician, comrade Wolf and Chicken Lady will get angry. BUT. But. For them to get angry, I'm not sure if player is first supposed to kill the Pretty Lady.

And yeah, opening the door yourself and then giving a key to someone is definitely a bug.

[Fishius]

if he didnt want me to open the door he could have said so, what a jackass

[Fishius]

thanks for the answers

[MazyRun]

Originally posted by Wolfman_TTV:

For them to get angry, I'm not sure if player is first supposed to kill the Pretty Lady.

Yeh I reckon that is probably the determining factor. If you use the key and steal a bunch of stuff but don't kill her you can still give the key away.

[Wolfman_TTV]

Fascinating. Actually I'm on playthrough where I planned to open the door myself, this is a PERFECT opportunity to test it out.