About wolfman, dog poop and bad game design...

[Adhan]

So I went to get back my stuff at chapter 2, managed to killed the dogs with meat+traps+chameleon combo but I died to Wolfman as expected, having to fight with shabby weapons and blinking lights. I returned to give it another try and he's gone with all the items he has stolen from me (including among others, an axe head and several ammo). Just why...? Is this your idea of having a climactic fight?
Isn't enough we have to leave a truckload of items between chapter transition, do you also have to snatch our items permanently in such a cheap way?

PS I'm starting to regret that I rated the game so high...

[Null Winter]

You can always pre-emptively euthanize him.

[Adhan]

I know but this feels meta and cheap, for first playthrough.

[Adhan]

It seems I have encounted a bug. When I went back I found his rifle lying on the floor near the metal door. I loaded my file just in case the game wasn't saved and I could get another go with him. Said gun is nowhere to be found. That's total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. :{

[PizzaSHARK]

Originally posted by Null Winter:

You can always pre-emptively euthanize him.

What a dumb comment to make. Demanding the player possess precognition in order to not be arbitrarily screwed by the game is really stupid.

[Null Winter]

Originally posted by PizzaSHARK!:

Originally posted by Null Winter:

You can always pre-emptively euthanize him.

What a dumb comment to make. Demanding the player possess precognition in order to not be arbitrarily screwed by the game is really stupid.

Really? You need to be psychic to guess that he isn't a great guy and that he will try to kill you? It's entirely up to the player on whether they act first or see how it plays out, but the game outright tells you his intentions before you even finish up the Silent Woods.

[The Three]

Well, when the game loads, it says that you're playing a hard game that won't hold your hand.
Seems like OP got spoiled by modern games.

[Elizabello]

Hmm i kinda really liked the fight. Was playing on nightmare and didnt know what to expect.

[Adhan]

Originally posted by Sgt. Dornan:

Seems like OP got spoiled by modern games.

Edgy.
FYI I grew up with games such as Castlevania, Alone in the Dark, Might & Magic Unreal, Baldur's Gate, System Shock, Thief etc.
This has nothing to do with challenge.
Flickering lights and weak weapons make this encounter an exercise in frustration. Simple as that.

[Stirling]

To be fair, you DID double-cross the wolfman by ignoring him and giving the key to the musician, if not predictable it's at least implied that you pissed him off.
And if you play the swamp with any sense of rationality, you'll always be going out with at least one decent firearm and a stack of ammo, so you should have at least some weapons left to take Wolf on with at any time.

I do agree that it's kind of out-of-the-blue, though. Maybe some sort of warning is in place, like the player character saying "Something is out there. I should keep myself well-armed."

[Adhan]

Originally posted by Beleth:

And if you play the swamp with any sense of rationality, you'll always be going out with at least one decent firearm and a stack of ammo, so you should have at least some weapons left to take Wolf on with at any time.

But this set piece will initiate if you do as he asks and leave all your items on the dummy (even flares and pills ffs).
Wait... are you telling me that you can drop your weapons on the floor and pick them up during the fight?

[Stirling]

Originally posted by Adhan:

Originally posted by Beleth:

And if you play the swamp with any sense of rationality, you'll always be going out with at least one decent firearm and a stack of ammo, so you should have at least some weapons left to take Wolf on with at any time.

But this set piece will initiate if you do as he asks and leave all your items on the dummy (even flares and pills ffs).
Wait... are you telling me that you can drop your weapons on the floor and pick them up during the fight?

it's worth a try.

Personally, I just killed him at that point. The dude has human trophies all over his house, there's no way I'm stripping my gear in front of him.

[Adhan]

Jesus...
I should have figured that out since I was able to lay traps.

Anyway, thanks and duly noted.