Is it true the devs literally made a torrent for this game?

[Maxiuss]

If so I am gonna buy this game just for that

[I'm a Cookie, Taste Me]

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it does combat those key resellers i guess

not any more or less thn just not putting the game in pay what you want bundles and not giving away skads of free keys would.

giving away keys is part of the problem people who are "up and coming youtubers/streamers" ask for keys but just sell them instead, or so the rumors go
dont you know every gamer in russia is a streamer?

[Tanchyon]

This is the reason I bought the game. If I had of known how good it was I would have bought it a long time ago.

[Tanchyon]

And I don't see why people should complain. IIRC they did it so that poor gamers can still get it without looking for a bargain on the reseller sites. It's kind of like complaining that walmart handed out a can of soda to a homeless guy when you just paid for one. You should pay. You aren't in a difficult situation.

[Null Winter]

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And I don't see why people should complain. IIRC they did it so that poor gamers can still get it without looking for a bargain on the reseller sites. It's kind of like complaining that walmart handed out a can of soda to a homeless guy when you just paid for one. You should pay. You aren't in a difficult situation.

One could argue that someone pirating games on a functioning computer isn't in dire straits, either.

[Tanchyon]

Publicado originalmente por Null Winter:

Publicado originalmente por Tanchyon:

And I don't see why people should complain. IIRC they did it so that poor gamers can still get it without looking for a bargain on the reseller sites. It's kind of like complaining that walmart handed out a can of soda to a homeless guy when you just paid for one. You should pay. You aren't in a difficult situation.

One could argue that someone pirating games on a functioning computer isn't in dire straits, either.

Guy gets sick, can't work for a few months or even years, or even just loses his job. He has all his assets but suddenely he can only just keep afloat thanks to insurance. It doesn't take much to own a PC especially for this game. Who knows, it comes down to the integrity of the player, there will always be cheapasses that just pirate anyway.

I doubt there are many cases of people legitimately benefitting from what they have done by making a torrent available, but it's a nice gesture and one that I respect.

[Thundercracker]

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One could argue that someone pirating games on a functioning computer isn't in dire straits, either.

Guy gets sick, can't work for a few months or even years, or even just loses his job. He has all his assets but suddenely he can only just keep afloat thanks to insurance. It doesn't take much to own a PC especially for this game. Who knows, it comes down to the integrity of the player, there will always be cheapasses that just pirate anyway.

I doubt there are many cases of people legitimately benefitting from what they have done by making a torrent available, but it's a nice gesture and one that I respect.

games are a luxury. no one is entitled to a luxury.

[Stirling]

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Guy gets sick, can't work for a few months or even years, or even just loses his job. He has all his assets but suddenely he can only just keep afloat thanks to insurance. It doesn't take much to own a PC especially for this game. Who knows, it comes down to the integrity of the player, there will always be cheapasses that just pirate anyway.

I doubt there are many cases of people legitimately benefitting from what they have done by making a torrent available, but it's a nice gesture and one that I respect.

games are a luxury. no one is entitled to a luxury.

It's not a matter of entitlement, it's a matter of it's going to happen anyways, might as well make a safe and easy torrent because not all people who pirate are bad guys. I often torrent a game to see if I like it. If I do, I'll buy it. If I don't, I'll delete the game and go on my merry way.

But that isn't even the full reason Acid Wizard did it, they also wanted to undermine G2a and other key resellers. It's a pretty noble move. And honestly, if Acid Wizard manages to make a lot of profit off Darkwood anyway, that just proves that the internet isn't always the wretched pit of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is usually is.

[Thundercracker]

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games are a luxury. no one is entitled to a luxury.

It's not a matter of entitlement, it's a matter of it's going to happen anyways, might as well make a safe and easy torrent because not all people who pirate are bad guys. I often torrent a game to see if I like it. If I do, I'll buy it. If I don't, I'll delete the game and go on my merry way.

But that isn't even the full reason Acid Wizard did it, they also wanted to undermine G2a and other key resellers. It's a pretty noble move. And honestly, if Acid Wizard manages to make a lot of profit off Darkwood anyway, that just proves that the internet isn't always the wretched pit of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is usually is.

you dont give out your product for free on the logic that "people will steal it anyway."

[B the Self]

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you dont give out your product for free on the logic that "people will steal it anyway."

but people will pirate anyway
and also the only reason i bought 2 copies of the game was becaouse the devs upload the game to torrent sites

[Thundercracker]

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you dont give out your product for free on the logic that "people will steal it anyway."

but people will pirate anyway
and also the only reason i bought 2 copies of the game was becaouse the devs upload the game to torrent sites

good for you.

you are in the extreme minority. and you've sufficiantly signaled your virtue to put your conscious to rest.

[Pulowski]

thread derailed

[Stirling]

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but people will pirate anyway
and also the only reason i bought 2 copies of the game was becaouse the devs upload the game to torrent sites

good for you.

you are in the extreme minority. and you've sufficiantly signaled your virtue to put your conscious to rest.

The point she was making is that plenty of people are willing to buy the game just for the sake of giving Acid Wizard money. MrWorthless did it, I did it, many others did.

Accusing of virtue signalling while failing to grasp the point of the statement they made just proves that you're more interested in picking fights than in having a rational discussion.

[Thundercracker]

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good for you.

you are in the extreme minority. and you've sufficiantly signaled your virtue to put your conscious to rest.

The point she was making is that plenty of people are willing to buy the game just for the sake of giving Acid Wizard money. MrWorthless did it, I did it, many others did.

Accusing of virtue signalling while failing to grasp the point of the statement they made just proves that you're more interested in picking fights than in having a rational discussion.

i see no indication anywhere that sales were increased by way of this PR stunt. forums went back to prior levels of activity quickly, and there was no spike in playercount.

steam featuring the game as it launched from early access did exponentially more for the acid wizards.

so good for you, you are in the extreme minority, and your public posting about how ethical you've been should let you sleep easy.

[Pulowski]

GOOD JOB MODERATOR

[Null Winter]

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GOOD JOB MODERATOR

I'm not allowed to do anything about opinions unless they become overly aggressive personal attacks. :P