Is there a happy ending? (spoilers)

[Brian]

So on my first play through I had a bad ending where my character became a hobo, lost the love of his life, and got screwed by his best friend every which way round. Is there a happy ending where you get to be happy with your love interest (and not a hobo)?

[Retu]

Yep, I payed Sam's debt, objected at the wedding and won the LI back. I made a book out of my journal that became a huge success and Sam ended up being a dirty hobo in an alley begging for a shot between the eyes. Reality hits you hard, bro.

As long as you think that's a happy ending, though. For me it is.

[Aërendoodle]

Originally posted by Retu:

Yep, I payed Sam's debt, objected at the wedding and won the LI back. I made a book out of my journal that became a huge success and Sam ended up being a dirty hobo in an alley begging for a shot between the eyes. Reality hits you hard, bro.

As long as you think that's a happy ending, though. For me it is.

Can you explain how you managed to get that ending exactly?

[Jagore]

Originally posted by Retu:

Yep, I payed Sam's debt, objected at the wedding and won the LI back. I made a book out of my journal that became a huge success and Sam ended up being a dirty hobo in an alley begging for a shot between the eyes. Reality hits you hard, bro.

As long as you think that's a happy ending, though. For me it is.

yeah, the happy ending is Sam eating a bullet or wanting to. Its the best you can hope for if your MC's happyness is the goal. But if you feel joy out of Sams suffer are you still a monster?

Personally I felt it was justified. Sam tried to steal everything you had and in a way I felt like the wedding invitation itself was some kind of twisted revenge scheme. I mean I suppose you can give him the benifit of the doubt and thing he really wanted to be friends, but then why doesh e leave you to rot when he says he would take care of you? Personally I think Sam was out to get you the whole time. The wedding invite was really him kicking you while you were down.

[Brian]

@Jagore , thats very interesting I didnt think about it at that point of view. thanks for your comments guys <3

[caseus]

I can't believe I got a bad ending! I saved the dog, gave the money for rehab, didn't steal any money or lie, didn't rig the election, didn't sabotage the mechanic's car, was respectful of Mark's religion, gave every pro-love, pro-LI, optimistic, forgiving answer I could, gave Sam my manuscript to save her life, didn't tell Larry the truth in order to protect Sam, took a breath and then objected, still got straight up rejected! I truly don't know how I could've been much more selfless of a person, honestly, and then hours later that's exactly what my LI called me to my face in front of a whole crowd of people...I end up homeless on the street and Sam becomes a millionaire while happily married to the love of my life. What BS!

[Brian]

yea you almost exactly matched my character and I got the same ending but I think its because (well atleast with me) I didnt call sam at the beggining, black mailed the doctor, forgot about the bag of meth with your music buddy, some how was blamed for a rigged election even though I refused to help with the hacking, left my homeless crazy friend in that nazi style homeless shelter, forgot about the kid fishing and he died of stavation,I think its those events that are forgot that may effect the story. Idk I have to do another play through to find out

[OakieDokes]

Originally posted by caseus:

I can't believe I got a bad ending! I saved the dog, gave the money for rehab, didn't steal any money or lie, didn't rig the election, didn't sabotage the mechanic's car, was respectful of Mark's religion, gave every pro-love, pro-LI, optimistic, forgiving answer I could, gave Sam my manuscript to save her life, didn't tell Larry the truth in order to protect Sam, took a breath and then objected, still got straight up rejected! I truly don't know how I could've been much more selfless of a person, honestly, and then hours later that's exactly what my LI called me to my face in front of a whole crowd of people...I end up homeless on the street and Sam becomes a millionaire while happily married to the love of my life. What BS!

Hmm, you gave up your manuscript to save Sam AND you didn't tell Larry about it? I think that will erase your chance at success and lose your only leverage point against Sam's lies. If only you, Sam, and the president knew that the manuscript was originally yours then of course you'll look like a selfish bastard trying to take Sam's success away. Mark did ask you what were you willing to give up for love (I'm assuming that's what you picked) and I assume you also picked everything after that. I think keeping Sam's secret with the manuscript made you give up your chance with th LI when all you had to do was give up on your scumbag of a friend Sam.

[Retu]

In any case, how are we sure that making selfless decissions through the game is what makes the LI take you back? I mean, I played the game being just myself, sometimes I did good things ( I saved the dog in Dubstown, for example), sometimes I didn't (Like not giving a single ♥♥♥♥ for Mark's religion and going to the stripclub instead).

[icestorm]

After the LI rejected me and I tried with an older save game and got successful at the objection. The only difference was:
In the rejected version I claimed that the LI dumped me, and in case of the successful objection I claimed to have (regretfully) dumped my LI.

[lyonHearts]

thanks icestorm

[Conner]

I said i dumped my LI and she still rejected my objection.

Originally posted by icestorm:

After the LI rejected me and I tried with an older save game and got successful at the objection. The only difference was:
In the rejected version I claimed that the LI dumped me, and in case of the successful objection I claimed to have (regretfully) dumped my LI.

[TheTenthDoc]

The only happy ending is one where MC stops being a drama queen that isn't pushed around by anything stronger than a stiff breeze so no, there's no truly happy ending.

[Seph]

Yes there is! Well, it was sort of a happy ending that I got? I played a female asian chick (The one with the red plaid shirt and blue beanie), cause, well that's what I am in real life.

I don't think claiming whether 'you dumped ex' or the 'ex dumped you' changed much for me.

What happened was, when I got to San Verdano and was met with an unpleasant surprise (Sam invited me to the wedding, ex wasn't aware at the time), she wanted me to follow them to Las Vargas or something? I just politely refused to join her, twice. So she left and I stayed at the house. Ex's dad read my journal and sort of interrogated me, the whole "do you think you could make [ex's name] happy?" You know, after all the terrible things my character did, just to get here? My answers to him were, despite everything my character did, she loved [ex's name] and wanted to win him back. Those were the dialogue choices I made.

I've killed or inadvertently caused the death of three guys, kicked a satellite dish off a building and crippled a man (though Red was kind of a jackass), hacked beaton city's mainframe computer to rig their election among other things.

The real nice or empathetic things I've done in the game: Helped druggie friends get into rehab, blackmailed jerk-ass of a doctor to save friend's life, worked at a decent newspaper-writing job for awhile, calmed and befriended the disgruntled ad-agency executive dude -- he gave me a free ride to Beaton city.

My ending was that Sam abandoned ex at wedding, ex got back with me. The shady looking hobo at the alleyway was me, feeling guilty about not following Sam to Las Vargas (maybe I could've prevented her death?) -- now that she's dead -- and so my character wanted to die. Hitman didn't kill me and walks off. Cuts to next scene, Vagabond dogs buys my story to make their game. I get a million bucks and live in the same house as ex. Weirdly enough, the game doesn't end, does it? My character's in that house, with the ex cooped up in the bedroom alone, wanting time to think. No matter what I do, he never seems to get out of that room, time doesn't seem to pass by.. the game doesn't end officially. I think they call this the "never-ending epilogue".

That's the "happy ending" I got.

Now after reading what other players have said, man, am I glad for not getting involved with Sam's Las Vargas crap. Several dreams and flashbacks in the game hinted to the idea that she was plagiarizing my character's work and I did not trust her. Not that my character's been a shining example of a morally upright person, but still ... :P

[Moskibear]

Sam is a female if you play a female character? I suppose it makes sense, but that is cool to know!

[Selvec]

The moral of the story is not to judge people for their actions. Everyones a monster in someones eyes.