Mahjong Soul

Mahjong Soul

Brma Dec 12, 2024 @ 8:13am
Can someone explain
When someone calls Tsumo, I am ALWAYS the one who loses more points. It'll be easily divisible by 3 and I'll still lose more points than anyone else. I don't get why but it's screwed me out of a win so many times.
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swagen2167 Dec 12, 2024 @ 8:52am 
Are you the dealer? If so, there is a dealer penalty. That's the risk of when you are the dealer.
Brma Dec 12, 2024 @ 10:08am 
Originally posted by swagen2167:
Are you the dealer? If so, there is a dealer penalty. That's the risk of when you are the dealer.
Not always. I've seen two occurrences.
1. no one loses extra points.
2. Only I lose extra points
swagen2167 Dec 12, 2024 @ 10:20am 
Originally posted by Brma:
Originally posted by swagen2167:
Are you the dealer? If so, there is a dealer penalty. That's the risk of when you are the dealer.
Not always. I've seen two occurrences.
1. no one loses extra points.
2. Only I lose extra points

There are other reasons, like being a contributing factor to the person who went Tsumo on you. There are lots of threads online that explain this. Trust me, if you lost more points than the other 2 players there's a good reason for it.
Jobber Who Wocks Dec 12, 2024 @ 10:34am 
if you lose more points you're dealer. if everyone loses equal points the dealer got tsumo
koboldlord Dec 13, 2024 @ 8:28am 
The only case where all three of you lose equal points is if the dealer is the player getting the tsumo.

If you paid more than the other two players, the most common cause is that you are the current dealer. You probably have played games where other players paid more as dealer, but it didn't stick in your mind as much because it wasn't infuriating.

If it was a yakuman hand, you can sometimes get stuck with an extra penalty if you fed them a crucial part of the yakuman even if you didn't give them the last tile. This is very unlikely to have been the reason, though, because yakuman games are very rare and you would have probably mentioned it.

If you tried to Richi you also lose that 1,000 points and might end up more points down than somebody who didn't richi.
Brma Dec 13, 2024 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by koboldlord:
The only case where all three of you lose equal points is if the dealer is the player getting the tsumo.

If you paid more than the other two players, the most common cause is that you are the current dealer. You probably have played games where other players paid more as dealer, but it didn't stick in your mind as much because it wasn't infuriating.

If it was a yakuman hand, you can sometimes get stuck with an extra penalty if you fed them a crucial part of the yakuman even if you didn't give them the last tile. This is very unlikely to have been the reason, though, because yakuman games are very rare and you would have probably mentioned it.

If you tried to Richi you also lose that 1,000 points and might end up more points down than somebody who didn't richi.
I think it might be the last one mostly maybe sometimes a mix of them all. I'm pretty new but am already intermediate. I get how to play but this point system is hard to grasp. Thanks
1.2M | Missingno. Dec 13, 2024 @ 2:15pm 
To be precise, on a non-dealer tsumo, the dealer pays 50% and the other two players pay 25%. On a dealer tsumo, everyone pays 50%, and that adds up to 150% since dealer hands are worth an extra 50%.
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