Does this game have a smurfing problem

[Nine]

why are the players in rookie so good?

[Ruldra]

Events give away a ton of stuff. One just started today and the reward list for pasticipating is huge.

[Ellye]

Even when you do play against smurfs, it doesn't really matter that much.

Mahjong is heavily luck based. A bad and inexperienced player will still win against a pro a reasonable amount of times.

Sure, on average the pro will win more, but if you're just facing them in a single East Wind table it might make next to no difference.

Similarly, many of the people you think are smurfing might just be people that got lucky in that match.

[Sylastin]

Yeah keep whining, that's what I want when I ron in your face muhahaha.

[ルタフォリ]

The best player in the world against 3 people who know the bare minimum can still get rng'd and not have a winning hand 20 games in a row. Mahjong is hyper rng and the skill is only really show in single digit percentages over thousands of games played. I've been double riichi into yakuman'ed turn one by someone who doesnt even know what a yakuman is and was just clicking buttons.

Its a gambling game. They are not good players.

Majsoul specifically is a godtier f2p game, because you can download it and play it with 0 requirements to spend money at any point.

[Arbiter]

Originally posted by Missingno.:

Originally posted by Nine:

is there any penalty or leaving games? I alt f4'd out of the last one,. couldn't take it anymore

MajSoul's ranking system heavily punishes last place, so much so that it spawned a meta of "last place avoidance" that you might hear people have Opinions™ about. This is copied from Tenhou, which structured it that way because when it first launched with more symmetric point gain/losses, ragequitting was far too common. So they skewed the point spread to ensure players will stay and at least try to fight for third. And then MajSoul came around and just copied everything Tenhou did.

Mahjong is a four player game. If one person is no longer making logical discards, this disrupts the game pretty badly for the other three players. Having to change my strategy to deal with a ragequitter at the table really sucks, because now their discards are effectively completely random. Knowing that one player literally can't defend anymore means everyone else suddenly plays much more aggressively hoping to hit them.

I'm going to be blunt here. Mahjong can be a very frustrating game, and if you cannot take losses in stride, if you cannot exhibit good sportsmanship, you probably shouldn't be playing it.

Agree and disagree. This whole "shouldn't be playing it because of getting annoyed" aspect does apply at higher ranks, but when at low ranks trying to even get rewards it's just awful. When im sitting in a Bronze Lobby match, there's next to no difference in third or fourth anyways. When two players are at 30k+ and one at 15k and me sitting at 8k, i'd rather just save some time and leave at that point. The whole aspect of ruining the game doesnt matter for the main two since it's such low rank anyways and third place person can stay if they want, but in reality it's just so ass being a new player when you're that low. You could argue that you should stay to learn from the people who are beating you, but when players are at that high of points they play extremely aggressively anyways and only play via dragons/winds with nothing to learn from.

[1.2M | Missingno.]

I would argue that if you're a complete beginner, it doesn't matter a whole lot at this level what your opponents are doing, you'll have plenty of room to learn just playing tile efficiency.

A 7k point gap to third is very much possible to make a comeback. Assuming you're nondealer (if you are dealer, the path to victory is even easier), all you need is 3900 direct hit ron, 5200 tsumo if they're dealer, 6400 tsumo if nondealer, or 7700 on anyone else. In fact this is a scenario worth practicing how to aim for value when you need it most. Being behind in South 3/4 is a position you will find yourself in often, learn what to do here!

[Ruldra]

Plenty of times I've been in 4th place and managed a comeback to finish 2nd or 1st. Also seen people being in 1st and dropping to 4th on the last round. So much can happen in a game it's crazy. It's not over until it's really over.

[Nasder]

If you get annoyed when playing and want to quit, it's not a game for you. This is my general thought on gaming and not limited to this game.

The rewards might be smaller on lower ranks but you don't save time. You can't quit and start a new game right away. You'll get into the previous game if you jump back in. If they go for quick wins once they have a decent lead, that's smart play from their side. Same if you're in third and know it will be really hard to catch up. Intentionally winning on small hands to end the game is a smart idea too. If you're in fourth, you should at least try to get third before ending it.

Originally posted by Ruldra:

Plenty of times I've been in 4th place and managed a comeback to finish 2nd or 1st. Also seen people being in 1st and dropping to 4th on the last round. So much can happen in a game it's crazy. It's not over until it's really over.

Indeed. I found a log of mine where I had 800 points by the start of east 3. By the end of the game, I finished second with 28800. I kept east 3 going for 7 repeats.

[1.2M | Missingno.]

Reminded me to dig out this warstory I posted a while back of the best comeback I ever made.[fgc.network]

[Pckables]

Just had a solid game myself in a Gold Room where I got Haneman'd and put into 4th place.
Next round I tsumo Haneman'd, and then got 4 repeats on my dealer round, bankrupting someone and ending with me in 1st place above someone who had ~35k points the entire game.

The only habit you're going to build by leaving, even in bronze, is giving up.

[Nikola]

Really don't tryna act rude but just shut up and play. I started playing 2 months ago without any knowledge about the game other than i saw it in yakuza and im adept 3 now almost expert. Even if you play with better players you will just learn to play better faster, to me, it just looks like youre constantly crying.

[Nine]

Originally posted by Nikola:

Really don't tryna act rude but just shut up and play. I started playing 2 months ago without any knowledge about the game other than i saw it in yakuza and im adept 3 now almost expert. Even if you play with better players you will just learn to play better faster, to me, it just looks like youre constantly crying.

Don't tryna act rude, but are you stupid or something? This thread was posted a month ago and I've already anked up to adept a while ago.