Finally unlocked Ms. Joe and...

[Slywyn]

https://i.gyazo.com/80d31c5b7cbba76e4d498c51fbb386fa.png

She's terrible???

She's literally just Lim but worse.

Is she maybe supposed to get 6 cards instead of 4? Or is she really just a 'hard mode' character or something?

Feels like a real let-down to finally unlock her and my first thought is "oh. She sucks."

[Slywyn]

Okay so I derped because I hadn't played Lim in so long, however:

Lim gets 3 cards, starts with 1.

Cho gets 2 cards, starts with 0, has 2 extra slots.

Joe gets 4 cards, and DAILY HAPPINESS COSTS ARE LITERALLY 7X HIGHER.


I've never made it past day 20 but I'll keep you updated I guess, lol.

[kremlin]

How does it affect your car levels?

Choi is great, theoretically, though in my experience in Choi runs thus far I find that missing the third drop option leads to lower car levels. Filling up the train isn't a problem, but leveling the cars seems much trickier since you're missing 1/3rd of the options.

One of those runs I held on to three level 1 Department cards, I had level 2s of each of them on my train, and I crossed over 2/3rds of the map without ever getting a duplicate of any of them to be able to upgrade any of those level 2s to a level 3. The fourth card in that set dropped quite a few times when I was waiting for another of any of the other three.

I haven't unlocked Joe yet, but I expect from this experience that when using Joe you'll have much better odds of being able to pump up the cars you already have, versus the other two.

[Slywyn]

Honestly to me it feels about the same as Cho, but Cho feels like a 'lategame' kind of character because she really comes into her own when you can essentially tack on two free cars to any build which can be absolutely nuts.

Joe struggles to make it past Day 20 despite I would say being an 'earlygame' character because she would, theoretically, let you build cars super fast, but unless I'm just straight up doing it wrong, I just cannot crack her at all.

Tried Zeal+Bureau, tried Academy+Bureau, tried Bureau+templar. Haven't tried fuel or explorers yet I guess, could try that.

[Slywyn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/967481652521603165/1198002764094128128/image.png

may have finally managed to put something together but the happiness bar still visibly fluctuates wildly and I'm pretty sure I only didn't lose at one point because I have been actually clicking the task bubbles that give +1 Happiness. Was that close.

[Slywyn]

Nope. Lost on literally the last node before promised land. Just could not get the buildings leveled up fast enough.

There's so many garbage buildings that when you're searching for the ONE that will help you win... Having an extra card just does not matter.

Day 37, F.

I really think with her you have to rush the train speed because with her higher happiness daily costs pollution and storm absolutely destroy you. The last stretch of T3 pollution made my decent bank(like 6000-ish) of happiness completely evaporate.

Maybe if I had gone to level 6-7 on the train speed instead of 5 I might have made it but idk. The happiness costs are just so high.

[NightWood]

I completed it, but I used a second chance three times. I didn't know it was possible XD

https://i.ibb.co/nCCgn9v/image.png
Generally, build focused on explorers and academy.
On the first stage, I get train speed to T3 to get more stations, in the middle, I earn 8k happiness with 4 academy, 3 explorers, and first class.
In the end, "happiness" is ended and held below 100 at 32-day.

I don't know how I finished it because I got a second chance before the island and immediately after it.

[Slywyn]

Quite odd, I've never experienced anything like that myself, getting more than one.

[Slywyn]

Finally managed to beat Ms. Joe. Her happiness penalty is absolutely brutal. Never struggled so hard with either of the other conductors.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/425874564355194884/1198094765519011860/image.png?ex=65bda7b3&is=65ab32b3&hm=ac6197ddb163ac7cf7f26aacf6720638f523551c74e96d34ccd69c8852c2bed6&

Got the tensions event for running out of happiness one node from the end.

Made it with 21 happiness in the bank. Not even close.

Went for a max-speed build and Academy, pivoted to Zeal at the end, but tbh I probably should have just left the improvement cars in place because we were so close anyway.

[Onelies]

beat joe in second try. combo was bureau and academy with 4000 happiness in the end. (which was pretty close.) Trust me, Engine upgrade always pays off.

[kangtu1]

Engine upgrade always right
and i use a trick of red cards to put it in and take it out red synergy

[Slywyn]

Originally posted by kangtu1:

Engine upgrade always right
and i use a trick of red cards to put it in and take it out red synergy

What trick?

[kangtu1]

Swich 4culture 5culture
I uproad clear game at youtube here:
https://youtu.be/yO9QFMm6IBI?si=NFzm3cVX2ajwO6FS

[Slywyn]

I don't think I understand what you mean. :(

[Zodh]

Ms Joe is so unforgiving that I had to restart after not getting proper first few cards.
But I liked her, definitely a challenge and some kind of "hard more"

First win with Fuel and Hammer, but started with Academy 2 and Engine 3. Final score 0 though day 32

Second win was more smooth with Red Templars, same start with Academy 2 and Engine 3, then kept Engine 3. FInal score is 4824, day 34.

[AvatarOfWar]

Ms. Joe was a cakewalk for me. Finished with around 6400 score on my first try. All 3 defeated with 7.5 hours play time and 4k or higher scores. If you're struggling, focus on Academy (get 2 ASAP, then 4 ASAP), Engine Power... and thats it. Don't expand your train because you can. Instead just use enough cars to support your passengers (unless a new car gives you a bonus and has the same or better happiness than the average of your cars).