[NX] - Tracking your browser History

[Mutedsounds]

The information below has been copy and pasted from other forum posts regarding bans.

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Posted by [NX] Lazy:

Example A:

[NX]Lazy [Officer] 9 hours ago
You may provide us with your nickname and I'll re-check the logs but since you've already been punished it is very likely that you've been continously viewing these forbidden websites or using a software that is considered as hack, cheat or exploit to our anti-cheat software.

There is always a chance that we've made a mistake on that point but I'd say it's rather unlikely considering story you've shared with us.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/273110/discussions/0/490125737476489984/

Example B:

[NX]Lazy [Officer] 10 hours ago
I've checked the logs and it appears you've been continuously detected by our software as a visitor of websites distributing hacks, which is against our policy that you can read about in this place - http://steamcommunity.com/app/273110/discussions/0/490125737460998388/ And in addition to that, you've been also detected as an user of a software granting wallhack.

[NX]Lazy [Officer] 9 hours ago
Our logs clearly state that wallhack has been launched on a PC you were using and you were also continously visiting websites that are considered as forbidden due to our policy. As far as I am concerned, that set of evidences may result in nothing but a permanant ban which has been issued.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/273110/discussions/0/490125737478142619/

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Like I've previous mentioned in other forum posts Nexon has been pretty invasive in regards to privacy. This takes it to a whole new level. I'm pretty sure data mining user histories is considered ILLEGAL. I do not mind XIGNCODE/Hackshield monitoring programs used for cheating but monitoring user browser history is as bad as installing spyware and keyloggers on someone's computer. If Nexon is able to see someone's browser history then Nexon is clearly able to see your other searches as well as being able to access backdoors to your emails and bank accounts. Nexon is based in Luxemberg but their servers are hosted in seperate countries such in US, EU, and RU. Each of these countries have specific laws regarding data privacy, data collected and stored on those servers. To this, the server hosting company in whatever country they reside in must oblide by those laws.

Regarding the law, I do not know if this is legal or illegal but I believe it's under the illegal side as there is no legitmate need to monitor browser history. XIGNCODE/Hackshield should ONLY perform like a anti-virus program and block the use of illegal programs.

I'm writing this to inform those that play this game that their privacy is being violated. I've written an email to Valve Corporation to determine if this is allowed seeing as 1 EULA does not justify data mining in possibly 3 countries in which the servers are hosted that have different policies on this.

Yes,I've read what was posted here (http://steamcommunity.com/app/273110/discussions/0/490125737476489984/) but that is still not a legitimate excuse to monitor browser history. If Nexon wants to prevent hackers, write better codes to prevent reverse engineering. This is a game and it has no right to bypass laws on privacy. I also want to state that whether I'm banned in the future or not (I don't hack and will no longer play), this will always be an issue as possibly my personal information may or may not be compromised and I will to my full extent seek legal representation if NEEDED. Lastly, I do like the game but privacy rights trumps gaming.

P.S I've taken screenshots of all the forums posted regarding privacy issues and have forwarded them to Steam/Valve Corporation

[Mayoro]

I believe it's the hacking tool itself that invades your browser history and not Nexon staff itself.
I don't think they would stoop that low looking into people's history personally, but rather let the hacking tool do the job checking for them and giving them the log that has been suspicious on certain user.
Yes, i agree that it can be pretty invasive and everything, but as you can see, a LOT of people has been banned by it.
You can always delete or remove completely if you're not feeling safe how their game works, though.
Makes me wonder if cracking(games/programs) sites is considered hacking or suspicious activity...

[Mutedsounds]

Автор сообщения: unknownman115

If I knew a guy using VMware workstation to have bots to farm daily decoders, would she/he end up being perma banned just because he/she wanted to do things by themselves and not depend on others?

I knew some people that had as much as 6-9 bots and haven't been punished for it :l.

This has nothing to do with privacy and personal information.

Автор сообщения: Mayoro

I believe it's the hacking tool itself that invades your browser history and not Nexon staff itself.
I don't think they would stoop that low looking into people's history personally, but rather let the hacking tool do the job checking for them and giving them the log that has been suspicious on certain user.
Yes, i agree that it can be pretty invasive and everything, but as you can see, a LOT of people has been banned by it.
You can always delete or remove completely if you're not feeling safe how their game works, though.
Makes me wonder if cracking(games/programs) sites is considered hacking or suspicious activity...

I actually uninstalled a few hours ago and a complete wipe of all the files/folders after I played like 1hr. Went to read the forums and saw this which was disturbing. Yes people have been banned but what percentage was from looking at your browser history and what percentage was from the program?? Because if it the percentage of browser history was higher then you basically put a keylogger on your computer. Also cracking games or programs is considered hacking. You're taking a original product and editing/inserting/deleting code in which allows you manipulate functions that is not specificially allowed by the original.
Lastly it doesn't matter whose doing it. You have to ask yourself this...

1) is it necessary for nexon or xigncode to look at your browser history for a game? This means they can see the hacking websites you searched but also your bank accounts, online billing information, passwords, social security, etc.

2) Where is this information/data going, how is it stored and what guarantees do you have that your personal identity isn't compromised if say XIGNCODE or NEXON gets hacked. Large companies like Target were hacked and credit card numbers were stolen. What's to say your's won't?

Автор сообщения: STARScore

BlackCipher is the thing that invades your privacy. BlackCipher is an "anti-hack" (that doesn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ work.) that tracks your browsing history, keylogs your passwords, AND is required to be installed to use any of Nexon's games. I have a feeling that keylog your password also takes note of credit card information. Which is why I'm planning on quitting relatively soon, uninstalling all of Nexon's ♥♥♥♥, and not looking back.

I personally think its the XIGNCODE because Nexon was never able to look browser history with blackcipher or even hackshield. What i do know is that Hackshield was able to see all of your computer specs, what is installed and running. Hackshield even detected what print driver i have installed and running. I've actually uninstalled CSNZ and deleted hackshield, blackcipher,xigncode folders with a in-depth scan.

[smartwater]

wow.. lots of words in here 0.o

[wizard_[ttv]]

It's XINGCODE primarly. Since Dungeon & Fighter/Dungeon Fighter Online does the exact same for it's "anti-hack." Neople, the developers of DNF/DFO even said certain and specific programs will flag a flase positive.

But these other anti-cheat tools are just as ineffective. I don't even have to look at flagged websites to know this either. a simple google search proves that.

[mysteryman115]

Автор сообщения: Mutedsounds The Messiah

Автор сообщения: unknownman115

This has nothing to do with privacy and personal information.

Автор сообщения: Mayoro

I believe it's the hacking tool itself that invades your browser history and not Nexon staff itself.
I don't think they would stoop that low looking into people's history personally, but rather let the hacking tool do the job checking for them and giving them the log that has been suspicious on certain user.
Yes, i agree that it can be pretty invasive and everything, but as you can see, a LOT of people has been banned by it.
You can always delete or remove completely if you're not feeling safe how their game works, though.
Makes me wonder if cracking(games/programs) sites is considered hacking or suspicious activity...

I actually uninstalled a few hours ago and a complete wipe of all the files/folders after I played like 1hr. Went to read the forums and saw this which was disturbing. Yes people have been banned but what percentage was from looking at your browser history and what percentage was from the program?? Because if it the percentage of browser history was higher then you basically put a keylogger on your computer. Also cracking games or programs is considered hacking. You're taking a original product and editing/inserting/deleting code in which allows you manipulate functions that is not specificially allowed by the original.
Lastly it doesn't matter whose doing it. You have to ask yourself this...

1) is it necessary for nexon or xigncode to look at your browser history for a game? This means they can see the hacking websites you searched but also your bank accounts, online billing information, passwords, social security, etc.

2) Where is this information/data going, how is it stored and what guarantees do you have that your personal identity isn't compromised if say XIGNCODE or NEXON gets hacked. Large companies like Target were hacked and credit card numbers were stolen. What's to say your's won't?

Автор сообщения: STARScore

BlackCipher is the thing that invades your privacy. BlackCipher is an "anti-hack" (that doesn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ work.) that tracks your browsing history, keylogs your passwords, AND is required to be installed to use any of Nexon's games. I have a feeling that keylog your password also takes note of credit card information. Which is why I'm planning on quitting relatively soon, uninstalling all of Nexon's ♥♥♥♥, and not looking back.

I personally think its the XIGNCODE because Nexon was never able to look browser history with blackcipher or even hackshield. What i do know is that Hackshield was able to see all of your computer specs, what is installed and running. Hackshield even detected what print driver i have installed and running. I've actually uninstalled CSNZ and deleted hackshield, blackcipher,xigncode folders with a in-depth scan.

I thought I deleted my post before anyone could quote me ;-; *hides in a nuclear shelter bunker from hate bombs that may be dropped*

[kshowie]

Anyone who has to manipulate a program just to win a game is a sorry excuse for a gamer!

[Noctis]

shouldn't you pin up this ?

[zeldanolink]

@Mutedsounds The Messiah: If there may have been any mis-leaded info regarding this, we express our sincere apology to make you concerned. However, please note our official statement on this.

Nexon Europe does not store or save any private info from either your browser history or your PC. All the tools protecting our game only check your network IP when you execute our client because eventually your history of browser IPs are in your network connection records.
Any of your internet browser cannot be investigated via our hack tool. Once again, the tools only check your network connection IP history via your network connection when our game is executed. Once malicious IPs matches with our registered IP which are being treated as potential or malicious ones from the tools, then tools block your IP. Otherwise no IPs of your network connection history can be detected. In addition, there are no private information related to your concerns and it must not be revealed by any of our tools and we already legitimately following severe guideline by law within our service territories.

Thus, there should not be any concern regarding your privacy infringe. Please kindly be noted that.

[[TK] DirtyDanTheNinja]

yEA IT DOES WHEN YOU GET fausly banned

[Mutedsounds]

Автор сообщения: NXActive

@Mutedsounds The Messiah: If there may have been any mis-leaded info regarding this, we express our sincere apology to make you concerned. However, please note our official statement on this.

Nexon Europe does not store or save any private info from either your browser history or your PC. All the tools protecting our game only check your network IP when you execute our client because eventually your history of browser IPs are in your network connection records.
Any of your internet browser cannot be investigated via our hack tool. Once again, the tools only check your network connection IP history via your network connection when our game is executed. Once malicious IPs matches with our registered IP which are being treated as potential or malicious ones from the tools, then tools block your IP. Otherwise no IPs of your network connection history can be detected. In addition, there are no private information related to your concerns and it must not be revealed by any of our tools and we already legitimately following severe guideline by law within our service territories.

Thus, there should not be any concern regarding your privacy infringe. Please kindly be noted that.

Derp... exactly you just admitted you scan our browser history. Scanning the ip addresses of the websites we visit is still considered invasion of privacy. Do you let your girlfriend or boyfriend look at the websites you browse for fun? (pretty sure you don't...)

The only people allowed under law to track my network ip with network connection records is my ISP. NEXON is NOT and WILL NOT ever be allowed to enforce the Patriot Act or whatever form of survellience you've been conducting. The Patriot Act in the US used by cable and phone companies to track people's incoming and outgoing data related to terrorism ONLY.

Nexon has 0 rights to used our network ips to browse,scan, or detect our network ip records. This is a breach in privacy as well as potential data mine for hackers. You can take the ips we visit, run it thru cmd and see exactly what websites we visit and dont visit. Scanning ips by a gaming company should only include 5 things: ping, download speed, upload speed, possibly provider and location (possibly not even that). How else do you explain Lazy saying "Our logs clearly state that wallhack has been launched on a PC you were using and you were also continously visiting websites that are considered as forbidden due to our policy. As far as I am concerned, that set of evidences may result in nothing but a permanant ban which has been issued." if information is not stored?

When someone visits a website itis considered private information. When we connect to your servers we share our ip with you but not our other information. Information is always saved no matter what you do whether its thru a scan or generated into a log. For you to be able say that a "our logs" shows that information is definately saved. You may not think is private but everything within the domain of our ip is private.

[Mutedsounds]

Автор сообщения: DirtyDanTheNinja

yEA IT DOES WHEN YOU GET fausly banned

I dont care if they get banned, its the way they do it that is of major concern. This is about internet security and privacy.

Correction: I dont care if you get banned. I aint fighting for you and whatever shady thing you do.

[qqq123]

Автор сообщения: NXActive

Once again, the tools only check your network connection IP history via your network connection when our game is executed. Once malicious IPs matches with our registered IP which are being treated as potential or malicious ones from the tools, then tools block your IP.

Oh, and that makes it better, ♥♥♥♥$hlt?

[JN|J|D]

i once visited p0rnhub while playing csnz. apparently watching a video titled 'hacked celeb videos' gets you banned in here. that's how awesome nexon's hackshield is.

that's a joke ofc.

but in all seriousness, this game has turned into crap for the past few months. thats what happens when 'developers' get greedy and turn into 'businessmen.'

they even removed that one dev/mod who accidentally admitted that nexon eur heavily favors what the turk community wants. smh.

[Mutedsounds]

Автор сообщения: qqq123

Автор сообщения: NXActive

Thus, there should not be any concern regarding your privacy infringe. Please kindly be noted that.

Just close this piece of ♥♥♥♥ game down if you're gonna implement these privacy breaching tactics, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ c.u.n.t

I agree. If Nexon needs to go to these extremes to ban hackers than they should be shut down. Getting hackers is one thing but for a game to be able to scan our computers without an type of dialogue box or giving its players notice is not ACCEPTABLE!

[qqq123]

Автор сообщения: Snipota

Guys, the best way is CSN:Z ask valve permission to get VAC Ban sistem. No blackchipter or something like that. Cheaters are ruining this game and thats why this game is ded. Enough with this anti-hack, it doesnt work and ask valve permission to make vac ban sistem

Who is with me

I'm with you on this one. We need an anti-hack system that actually works. VAC seems to be effective in CSGO. It should do fine detecting hackers in CSNZ. Fingers crossed for these Nexon developers to listen to a suggestion once.