What happened to the game?

[76561199095068110]

Why the game is dead?

For me I think it's because of the updates. All updates that came after 2017 are horrible which caused the destruction of the game.

1- Studio is unnecessary, normal maps are good.

2- Changing the menu/interface was an atrocious decision; Indonesian players are now playing with Turkish players, American players playing with Russian players, what?!!! It's causing heavy lag in the rooms.

3- Overpowered weapons that made the game unplayable. A pistol that sends zombies flying? A weapon called Heaven Splitter which disables all skills of the zombies? A grenade that kills 10 zombies with 1 shot? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOIUMs2NXoI

4- The game flipped, insane. Zombies are supposed to chase humans right? It's now the opposite. Zombies are running from humans. Zombies are overly weak, if you become a zombie all you can do is hide from humans. Nothing you can do to make your zombie stronger.

5- The game is no longer addictive. It's not like what it was in 2014-2016, you'll get bored really fast. No daily missions, no normal missions, no crafting, no weekly missions. Pretty much any new player will not get attached to the game.

6- The modes are incompatible with the new weapons. They're made for old game, not this new one. Zombie Escape is dead because ^ overpowered weapons now got into it. A guy with 1 pistol can send 20 zombies flying off the train and make them all die. 1 shot with Heaven Splitter in Zombie Darkness mode can kill a zombie. TDM is dead because there's now literally aimbot in the game lol, you can pay to get a pistol with auto-aim that can shoot 10 players at once with the same bullet. Or some fists that emit electricity which auto-aims too. Is it fair?

What can Nexon do?! Remove all updates that came after 2017. The players will love it, the game will become more addictive, more entertaining and overall more balanced. I'd like to hear others' opinion of why the game is now nearly dead, what you think?

[ABUFZRMAN]

I agree with almost all of what you said except studio mode being unnecessary, studio mode is decent and I believe some players will disagree with you on that one too.

Zombie Z mode is like an attempt to make you feel the old game era again but it's limited to the first few rounds only, after that it becomes chaotic like Zombie Hero.

I would love to see a mode that is similar to Zombie Z but without mutations or just put more restrictions for overly powered weapons(I know that this was suggested before but the devs should have realised by now how much players want new restrictions).

[joppe .38 Special]

This is legit one of the best posts about the problems in this game

[joppe .38 Special]

Originally posted by ABUFZRMAN:

I agree with almost all of what you said except studio mode being unnecessary, studio mode is decent and I believe some players will disagree with you on that one too.

Zombie Z mode is like an attempt to make you feel the old game era again but it's limited to the first few rounds only, after that it becomes chaotic like Zombie Hero.

I would love to see a mode that is similar to Zombie Z but without mutations or just put more restrictions for overly powered weapons(I know that this was suggested before but the devs should have realised by now how much players want new restrictions).

Agreed, studio mode does not hurt this game.
It gives players freedoms

[vite 📶]

I can agree with some points and whilst others do not really live up to what I also think about the game, I can say that the game really does feel different. Let me assess what statements you have listed are relatable to me:

1 - Studio does bring some light to the game, as one of its focal points IMO. I find the mode quite enjoyable and cannot really comment on that further, despite people saying that it is a rip-off from Minecraft.

2 - There is a reason region-designated rooms exist. You do not have to play servers with high ping for you. For me, I do not have a problem with the new system.

3 - That I have to agree with, however I don't think we can do anything to that. Nexon has set a new business model and it clearly works. I guess an old-school remake of the game would be nice, but what if the magic of old CSN:Z vanishes? There is a reason why we think of the good moments in our lives, and when we try to relive them it's simply not as good. Same sentiment applies here. Do you want to get frowned upon for using Thunderbolt or Newcomen? ... still better than Void Avenger/Heaven Splitter, I see it in your eyes.

4 - Never touched zombie modes much, so I cannot tell myself. That mode is stinky.

5 - Depends. Some events are still really good, but I do agree that the game becomes a bit stale at times. I still find some of the moments hilarious when I'm playing with friends.

6 - Oh right, TDM. That mode did indeed get completely screwed because of TGW and the like. Who would have thought that running around, being invisible and whipping out DSPS to kill your target is not OP. Plus everyone has mines and Autigenders. (AUG Guardian.) Nobody even dares play that mode with New Classic restriction on anymore, anyway. I am not going to touch it with a 10 foot pole ever again.

There are certain aspects that almost all of us would like to be changed, but are not going to happen unfortunately. Seeing the player count getting chipped continually, there is still something that Nexon can do. Who knows, what happens. That is up to them.

[76561198869411301]

I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING!!!!

IF NEXON WANT MORE PLAYERS AND MORE MONEY THEY NEED TO BRING OLD GAME JANUARY 2015 VERSION, OK!!!!!

I HOPE NEXON DO IT BECAUSE I WILL CRAFT BALROG-11 AND WIN ALL ROUNDS, I'M PRO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ConTraZVII]

Originally posted by ７ Ｘ Ｖ Ｎ 神:

Originally posted by NXRedd:

- Heaven Splitter does not disable zombie skills, if it does then it's a bug and needs to be reported.

It stuns ganymede, rusty wing while dashing, also hellhound still slows down metatronic and void avenger pulls metatronic while skill is activated, also bouncer bullets slows down that big zombie from zombie evolution in case if you didnt know.

Originally posted by NXRedd:

Daily missions are available during Season Passes. The next one starts October 7, and then daily and weekly missions will become available to help your progress through the pass.

They exist but still they exist for something you pay for, you dont get any actual benefits like in the old days where you could get durable items, blueprints, etc.

Originally posted by NXRedd:

Heaven Splitter by itself isn't broken,

Have you seen anyone who has heaven splitter but not the other no aim weapons? Because i didn't.

1. Tyrant can easily dodge them.
2. Why needd urable items when you can get decoders for free? And it instantly give you the Craft weapons and no need to collect any other items anymore.
3. The room just need to enable Rusty Wing and any epic weapons will lose.

[Yelloww]

In my opinion they just need to optimize the game and rerelease the "standard" weapon restriction and adjust it again which would exclude all epic,transcendence,magic,Hunter killer weapon series so they don't need to remove p2w system, I'm sure a lot of people will like it. If ur asking me what weapon that should be need to be nerfed really is, I would like to say to nerf hellhound(its slow and dmg slightly),heaven splitter(just it's slow slightly),physic harmonium(its knockback),gunslinger and windrider(its stun and knockback slightly),holy sword(just it's knockback). Also if u said that studio mode is bad, it means u have never played it and have never tried to make a single map. Just that, thanks

[ConTraZVII]

Originally posted by 𝐊𝟗𝐗𝟎:

Craft should come back saying "Why needd urable items when you can get decoders for free? And it instantly give you the Craft weapons and no need to collect any other items anymore"

The craft you got weapons of days to make it permanent or receive it permanent and in fact had so much weapon than in the deco ...

(All of this was taken from the google translator, because I was too lazy to use my bad English) xD

Actually, weapons in Rare Decoders already cover all weapons in Craft system. And you can still extend the weapons.

[MODESTыч]

Well, the Studio is not unnecessary. Studio mode is a great thing but the problem is that the CSN:S has low online and it is simply pointless to make maps in the Studio - no one will play them (unless it some kind of port from CS 1.6 like zm_dust_world).

But about everything else I agree - PvP zombie modes are now broken and Zombie Escape has generally turned into a clownery.
When I'm playing some PvP zombie mode and on round start I got a message that I'll became zombie it calls me nothing but a desire to disconnect from the server...

[Freelogen]

Look I'm going to settle this once and for all, and if you disagree with me you're wrong.

Stop giving out VVIP.

That is all.

[Freelogen]

Originally posted by Flareon TeamForce:

Why the game is dead?

For me I think it's because of the updates. All updates that came after 2017 are horrible which caused the destruction of the game.

1- Studio is unnecessary, normal maps are good.

2- Changing the menu/interface was an atrocious decision; Indonesian players are now playing with Turkish players, American players playing with Russian players, what?!!! It's causing heavy lag in the rooms.

3- Overpowered weapons that made the game unplayable. A pistol that sends zombies flying? A weapon called Heaven Splitter which disables all skills of the zombies? A grenade that kills 10 zombies with 1 shot? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOIUMs2NXoI

4- The game flipped, insane. Zombies are supposed to chase humans right? It's now the opposite. Zombies are running from humans. Zombies are overly weak, if you become a zombie all you can do is hide from humans. Nothing you can do to make your zombie stronger.

5- The game is no longer addictive. It's not like what it was in 2014-2016, you'll get bored really fast. No daily missions, no normal missions, no crafting, no weekly missions. Pretty much any new player will not get attached to the game.

6- The modes are incompatible with the new weapons. They're made for old game, not this new one. Zombie Escape is dead because ^ overpowered weapons now got into it. A guy with 1 pistol can send 20 zombies flying off the train and make them all die. 1 shot with Heaven Splitter in Zombie Darkness mode can kill a zombie. TDM is dead because there's now literally aimbot in the game lol, you can pay to get a pistol with auto-aim that can shoot 10 players at once with the same bullet. Or some fists that emit electricity which auto-aims too. Is it fair?

What can Nexon do?! Remove all updates that came after 2017. The players will love it, the game will become more addictive, more entertaining and overall more balanced. I'd like to hear others' opinion of why the game is now nearly dead, what you think?

I agree with every single one of your points except maybe Studio, I understand that the motive behind the gamemode is to bring to the table creative elements, but I'm seriously not a fan of Studio for several reasons and the main reason is because of the lack of variety, the main reason for this issue is the creators themselves, some players have made some pretty decent maps but none of them strike me as impressive enough for me to pursue Studio-mode anymore than I need to for events, even if there is a handful that may, there simply isn't enough, the issue with Studio is that for it to truly thrive you're going to have to have a bigger player-base and there's absolutely no way anyone can say this mode is meant to be played by yourself, creative and simplistic game-modes such as Studio is at its peak when playing with friends. Simply put, what is the purpose of creation if nobody is going to appreciate it...

I still don't understand why people still create maps outside of events, I don't understand why they don't jump on larger and more popular games, but the fact that people are means that Studio should still exist, I have no idea what type of game-mode this would've been if it was a staple of CSNZ, basically if it was included since day one. Who knows it might've been really popular, I'm not sure.

Also the issue with the interface is honestly still something I can't wrap my mind around, unless the game is changing engines or getting a remaster, such a trivial and subtle change such as changing the menu, decoding animation, zombie hands....kinda alienates the game and makes it almost uncanny, because instead of changing one whole of a product they kinda just went like...."here's the full package, but take a quarter of that package and make it different." Why wouldn't you just stylize the entire thing? I think these decisions are definitely a result of an increasing corporatization in modern gaming, you see it everywhere, especially larger titles, because it seems like the vision of the developers and consumers are so, disconnected that it can't be natural, logging into a match right now, a Zombie match it's just...weird, you have over 20 Hellhounds being spammed all at once, Heaven Splitters everywhere and you see this everyday, you hear about it everyday in forums but sitting down to think about that for a second makes it such a weird thought. It's just...really weird.

[76561198869411301]

Originally posted by FreelosoFur:

Look I'm going to settle this once and for all, and if you disagree with me you're wrong.

Stop giving out VVIP.

That is all.

VVIP is good

you don't want people to have good weapons because you're a p2w player right?

if nexon wants to stop giving free vvip then they have to revert to CSNZ 2015

[Yelloww]

Originally posted by olm19851:

Originally posted by FreelosoFur:

Look I'm going to settle this once and for all, and if you disagree with me you're wrong.

Stop giving out VVIP.

That is all.

VVIP is good

you don't want people to have good weapons because you're a p2w player right?

if nexon wants to stop giving free vvip then they have to revert to CSNZ 2015

nonono, if all player have those OP weapon then all zombie mode room will be like a torture place, so they better to stop giving it or they must make it so difficult to get vvip pass

[MODESTыч]

Originally posted by PeleZz1928:

all zombie mode room will be like a torture place

Oh, i finally found a word to describe a CSN:S in it's current condition: THE TORTURE PLACE. This is what CSN:S right now :)

[YasinTR]

Some guns have become fantasy. You can prevent the use of these weapons by opening the room's weapon limitation setting. I don't think this game is going to go back to the 2015 update. Hero mode is out of control. people are playing games by insulting each other. This is really sad.