Is Varvara the best character?

[Evil Dave]

I had a lot of fun playing as her and to be honest her cards are super useful for move targets and also for survive long / boss fights. Reached her journey on hard without issues

[Zagryzaec]

Beat koschey first. Then you will be able to assess chars better.

[Evil Dave]

Publicado originalmente por Zagryzaec:

Beat koschey first. Then you will be able to assess chars better.

For your info, i just played as her in my first run but got defeated because i had to learn her cards first. Then i had access to the other characters and tried them out. I found Varvara to be the most versatile character to be honest. This game needs a lot of balance. Why they made a game where you can select 4 characters but the first one you get is the strongest? Why designing a game around one character only? it is absurd. Waiting for updates

[Zagryzaec]

Well... Did you best koschey?

You may find out that other can have way more slack when dealing with specific situations.

When mass sleep is available yes, varvara kills everything, but once enemy us immune to sleep and does like 50-90 damage - she may have a problem.

[Evil Dave]

Publicado originalmente por Zagryzaec:

Well... Did you best koschey?

You may find out that other can have way more slack when dealing with specific situations.

When mass sleep is available yes, varvara kills everything, but once enemy us immune to sleep and does like 50-90 damage - she may have a problem.

No. I am just trying out cards and choose what are the best for my runs as her. I am playing on Heroic right now. The ony thing that annoys me is that most of the enemies has a "vigor" or "strength" skill. They spam it and when this happens is when real problems starts. Devs should cool down these abilities a little bit to be honest. As i said, the game need balance because there is clearly some "holes" that need to be patched up

[Zagryzaec]

Bro, those are balanced. I played like 300+ hours and those are not the problem.

You need to get more expirience with the game.

There will be challenges much more than those strength skill on normal enemies.

[Evil Dave]

Publicado originalmente por Zagryzaec:

Bro, those are balanced. I played like 300+ hours and those are not the problem.

You need to get more expirience with the game.

There will be challenges much more than those strength skill on normal enemies.

I assume your are one of those guys that dedicates its life to such games. Good for you. I play a lot of games (in some i am a pro and some not so much) and even without be a pro in card games i manage pretty well even on the hardest difficulty (I saw streamers playing on normal difficulty and they weren't even able to beat the first boss). I am not just a random dude of the internet or a guy who started to play games yesterday. Anyway, not all of the players are like you. Games need to be challenging indeed, but also more accessible for everyone.

I will wait for patches and in the maintime i will also train with different set of cards and characters (Alyosha seems fun to play and also powerful). Have a nice day

[B]

Publicado originalmente por Evil Dave:

Publicado originalmente por Zagryzaec:

Bro, those are balanced. I played like 300+ hours and those are not the problem.

You need to get more expirience with the game.

There will be challenges much more than those strength skill on normal enemies.

I assume your are one of those guys that dedicates its life to such games. Good for you. I play a lot of games (in some i am a pro and some not so much) and even without be a pro in card games i manage pretty well even on the hardest difficulty (I saw streamers playing on normal difficulty and they weren't even able to beat the first boss). I am not just a random dude of the internet or a guy who started to play games yesterday. Anyway, not all of the players are like you. Games need to be challenging indeed, but also more accessible for everyone.

I will wait for patches and in the maintime i will also train with different set of cards and characters (Alyosha seems fun to play and also powerful). Have a nice day

For what it's worth, I agree with the other poster; one or two runs per character isn't enough to make a judgement on the balance of the characters. Personally I don't even think the first character is the strongest and I have almost all of the achievements. Also, in this game there are two difficulty types: one that decides whether you can save & quit or replay battles. The second is the Feat of Glory system, kind of like ascension levels in Slay the Spire. Those are the real difficulty modifiers and you need to beat the game to unlock new ones. The game is very forgiving with all characters up to about Glory 3 I'd say.

[Zagryzaec]

Publicado originalmente por Evil Dave:

Publicado originalmente por Zagryzaec:

Bro, those are balanced. I played like 300+ hours and those are not the problem.

You need to get more expirience with the game.

There will be challenges much more than those strength skill on normal enemies.

I assume your are one of those guys that dedicates its life to such games. Good for you. I play a lot of games (in some i am a pro and some not so much) and even without be a pro in card games i manage pretty well even on the hardest difficulty (I saw streamers playing on normal difficulty and they weren't even able to beat the first boss). I am not just a random dude of the internet or a guy who started to play games yesterday. Anyway, not all of the players are like you. Games need to be challenging indeed, but also more accessible for everyone.

I will wait for patches and in the maintime i will also train with different set of cards and characters (Alyosha seems fun to play and also powerful). Have a nice day

Could you give me example of those streamers?

Also nice day to you and have fun with the game. Remember every loss is just a chance to try different build.

[Mani]

My experience is that she is actually the weakest vs koschey, but maybe I didn't play her well vs him.

[Zagryzaec]

Publicado originalmente por Mani:

My experience is that she is actually the weakest vs koschey, but maybe I didn't play her well vs him.

It's kinda depends on the build.

Every char seems to be able to beat koschey with a bit of luck and not too much effort (haven't seen Dobrynya against him yet. )

Varvara maw him down pretty quickly with proper scaling.

[ManyAz1]

how do you scale varvara? even after they buffed double down and nerfed koschey I find it impossible, rest of the characters its much easier. I had 2 upgraded double downs, and the easy target etc - getting nowhere. do you have any deck build + relic that you can share?

[Zagryzaec]

Here is example of defeating koschey with varvara before patch.
https://youtu.be/CttxRKC2fco?si=clBkPDfG1dG5BKyO

I can't really say names of cards in your language You can scale though eye for an eye vs opponents who accomulate high attacks (koschey included). You can scale through vigor for example when you get vigor for displacing opponents, you can scale through power of belograd or whatever this card called, you can scale through stacks of... Head spinning? Vertigo? However this debuff called.

[ManyAz1]

got it, managed with eye for eye, and did have the boon which adds fortify when you move dying over to your side. but she's by far the most difficult in my view.