Another nerf update

[Bo1ks]

Change
Changed how the discount upgrades work in the calculations to have a bigger impact.

Before update
Level 1 diving school cost 4e58

Now
Level 1 diving school cost 5.6e58

Yeah, "bigger impact" indeed...

[AO Games]

Originally posted by Bo1ks:

Don't know what the hell just got nerfed, but here's my situation

Before update
480M gold away gold per hour
Level 1 diving school cost 4e58

Now
340M gold away gold per hour
Level 1 diving school cost 5.6e58

So...when the update gives you something to get extra income, devs took a part from what you already got.

Hey, the away income is not affected anymore by the zone multiplier, that is why you see a change.
and the price of the silver buildings/upgrades price was changed by only like 5-10%. nothing big.

- The active income still stays as regular - with the zone multipliers

[Bo1ks]

Originally posted by AO Games:

Originally posted by Bo1ks:

Don't know what the hell just got nerfed, but here's my situation

Before update
480M gold away gold per hour
Level 1 diving school cost 4e58

Now
340M gold away gold per hour
Level 1 diving school cost 5.6e58

So...when the update gives you something to get extra income, devs took a part from what you already got.

Hey, the away income is not affected anymore by the zone multiplier, that is why you see a change.
and the price of the silver buildings/upgrades price was changed by only like 5-10%. nothing big.

It's a big neft on building you know, if you do calculations, that means 40% more cost on building, so what is that 40% for?

Let me say it for you, "you guys are progress it too fast, slow the heck down, I don't want anyone to get to the endgame stage now"

Dude, you have three endless ascensions right there, people will always have something to grind, relax.

[vomidd]

Yes, and the away income got nerfed significantly. Surely, there is a better way to handle the zone multiplier issue so that you don't get punished if the zone multiplier is below 1, and still get the buff when the zone multiplier is above 1.

[Moula]

I've thought to quit playing this game today morning - with gold income 27M per hour it will take 12 hours to get one 300M upgrade. After the change the the income dropped from 27M to 20M... Really? even now is offline income negligible... next upgrades seems almost unreachable

[Bo1ks]

Originally posted by Moula:

I've thought to quit playing this game today morning - with gold income 27M per hour it will take 12 hours to get one 300M upgrade. After the change the the income dropped from 27M to 20M... Really? even now is offline income negligible... next upgrades seems almost unreachable

Just quit it if you dont have fun, go play something else.

[AO Games]

Released an update with stronger discount so it will be closer to what it was :)

[Bo1ks]

Before update
Level 1 diving school cost 4e58

Last update
Level 1 diving school cost 5.6e58

Now
Level 1 diving school cost 5e58

It's 25% more now, since dev still think taking whatever player already "earns" is a good idea, then I will have to guess, is it because you gave us too much upgrade, you don't know what to put in the upcoming pet contest as reward?

We will "regain" those upgrades in the pet contest, just like the nerf before the fish contest.

You don't even realize you are damaging your business model, right?

[AO Games]

Originally posted by Bo1ks:

Before update
Level 1 diving school cost 4e58

Last update
Level 1 diving school cost 5.6e58

Now
Level 1 diving school cost 5e58

It's 25% more now, since dev still think taking whatever player already "earns" is a good idea, then I will have to guess, is it because you gave us too much upgrade, you don't know what to put in the upcoming pet contest as reward?

We will "regain" those upgrades in the pet contest, just like the nerf before the fish contest.

You don't even realize you are damaging your business model, right?

The price change was a result of how the discounts were being wrongly calculated - not because I wanted to nerf anything.

is it really makes a big difference between 4e58 and 5e58 silver?

[Bo1ks]

Originally posted by AO Games:

Originally posted by Bo1ks:

Before update
Level 1 diving school cost 4e58

Last update
Level 1 diving school cost 5.6e58

Now
Level 1 diving school cost 5e58

It's 25% more now, since dev still think taking whatever player already "earns" is a good idea, then I will have to guess, is it because you gave us too much upgrade, you don't know what to put in the upcoming pet contest as reward?

We will "regain" those upgrades in the pet contest, just like the nerf before the fish contest.

You don't even realize you are damaging your business model, right?

The price change was a result of how the discounts were being wrongly calculated - not because I wanted to nerf anything.

is it really makes a big difference between 4e58 and 5e58 silver?

Well, I don't know if you are trying be stupid or you really don't know what the hell you just did...

4e58 and 5e58? yeah, that's 25%, a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 25%, you know we get those silver per second boost from the gold right? and it's accumulated.

In another word, now players need 25% more time to get the same ♥♥♥♥, that means you just make their gold efficiency become 80%, or you simply think no one will notice this?

That means 20% of whatever the time they spend goes in vain.

"WE JUST LOST 20% OF OUR TOTAL GOLD IN ANOTHER WORD"

Of course you can say you didn't take it away, you just give them back in another form like chest hunt or whatsoever, but what about your merchant? those X25 X50 X100 X500 stuff?

Players cannot just simply buy them and sit there for the same effect, because part of the reward is now in those chest hunts, fish contests, pet contests, they have to do whatever that is in that 8 mins.

I don't know, you tell me, is it really not a big difference?

[AO Games]

Originally posted by Bo1ks:

Originally posted by AO Games:

The price change was a result of how the discounts were being wrongly calculated - not because I wanted to nerf anything.

is it really makes a big difference between 4e58 and 5e58 silver?

Well, I don't know if you are trying be stupid or you really don't know what the hell you just did...

4e58 and 5e58? yeah, that's 25%, a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 25%, you know we get those silver per second boost from the gold right? and it's accumulated.

In another word, now players need 25% more time to get the same ♥♥♥♥, that means you just make their gold efficiency become 75%, or you simply think no one will notice this?

That means 25% of whatever the time they spend goes in vain.

"WE JUST LOST 25% OF OUR TOTAL GOLD IN ANOTHER WORD"

Of course you can say you didn't take it away, you just give them back in another form like chest hunt or whatsoever, but what about your merchant? those X25 X50 X100 X500 stuff?

Players cannot just simply buy them and sit there for the same effect, because part of the reward is now in those chest hunts, fish contests, pet contests, they have to do whatever that is in that 8 mins.

I don't know, you tell me, is it really not a big difference?

ok fair enough, I will increase the odds of current discounts so they will match the old silver costs.

can you tell me at what upgrade are you in the ascension tree?

[Bo1ks]

Originally posted by AO Games:

Originally posted by Bo1ks:

Well, I don't know if you are trying be stupid or you really don't know what the hell you just did...

4e58 and 5e58? yeah, that's 25%, a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 25%, you know we get those silver per second boost from the gold right? and it's accumulated.

In another word, now players need 25% more time to get the same ♥♥♥♥, that means you just make their gold efficiency become 75%, or you simply think no one will notice this?

That means 25% of whatever the time they spend goes in vain.

"WE JUST LOST 25% OF OUR TOTAL GOLD IN ANOTHER WORD"

Of course you can say you didn't take it away, you just give them back in another form like chest hunt or whatsoever, but what about your merchant? those X25 X50 X100 X500 stuff?

Players cannot just simply buy them and sit there for the same effect, because part of the reward is now in those chest hunts, fish contests, pet contests, they have to do whatever that is in that 8 mins.

I don't know, you tell me, is it really not a big difference?

ok fair enough, I will increase the odds of current discounts so they will match the old silver costs.

can you tell me at what upgrade are you in the ascension tree?

Very near the current end.

BTW, I didn't tell you everything, I keep a part of it, have your second thought before someone notice it.

[AO Games]

Originally posted by Bo1ks:

Originally posted by AO Games:

ok fair enough, I will increase the odds of current discounts so they will match the old silver costs.

can you tell me at what upgrade are you in the ascension tree?

Very near the current end.

BTW, I didn't tell you everything, I keep a part of it, have your second thought before someone notice it.

"I didn't tell you everything"
What do you mean, I'm not trying to hide anything.
I'm not trying to be scammy at all.

[AO Games]

I plan to update the game in the coming minutes, so you can tell me about something else before I do so. I might consider it

[Bo1ks]

Do what you have to do, just you notice this "you cannot take whatever you just gave, yes it will make no difference to the new players, instead of that, you are punishing the loyal players."

And...

We do calculations, we didn't skip our math class.

[AO Games]

Originally posted by Bo1ks:

Do what you have to do, just you notice this "you cannot take whatever you just gave, yes it will make no difference to the new players, instead of that, you are punishing the loyal players."

And...

We do calculations, we didn't skip our math class.

Updated the game, let me know what you think about the changes.

I want to be fair with the players