ENDER MAGNOLIA: Bloom in the Mist

ENDER MAGNOLIA: Bloom in the Mist

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Travelling Priestess and ending B *spoilers*
So is she Lily from the first game or a descendant? She states she used the purification artifact to cleanse the blight before just like in the 2nd ending in the first game. Her description also states she is "investigating" the blight in this land. Finally, she looks almost identical, although this is supposed to take place in 100 years, I wonder if Lily from the 1st game is immortal now as there are texts saying a priest from back from the land of origin is immortal.
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Veil Jan 24 @ 5:35am 
Probably a descendant, but i think Lilia was likely to be Lily's descendant too since her appearance and Lily's have a lot in common and she got the Blighted Ring
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Coraru Jan 24 @ 4:38pm 
I'm a bit conflicted on it being Lily or a descendant. She looks, from what we can see, basically the same. Same dress, with black ribbon tied at the waist and also wearing Ferin's , the Umbral Knight, cloak. Plus with mentioning the purification she preformed it would heavily imply the ending of Ender Lilies.
But I would need 2 questions need answered for it to be Lily:
Because of the decades past, does she not age fast if at all because she is an artificially made life?
And secondly, she can actually talk in this game. In Lilies it was specifically stated she would be unable to talk when she awoke so how can she talk now? Idk if that was a permanent she can't talk or doesn't know how to talk thing.
Last edited by Coraru; Jan 24 @ 4:42pm
I'm pretty sure it's Lily herself, aged up.

Originally posted by Koraru:
Because of the decades past, does she not age fast if at all because she is an artificially made life?
Decades? Iirc, the file (or was it a person?) said year(s). I actually, I think I remember it as "last year" but maybe I'm wrong.

And by not talking, I think what they meant is since she was born, she was sleeping so didn't "learn" to talk yet.
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Coraru Jan 24 @ 4:56pm 
Originally posted by Raccoon Citizen:
Decades? Iirc, the file (or was it a person?) said year(s). I actually, I think I remember it as "last year" but maybe I'm wrong.

Unless the change it later, store page does say it takes places decades after the events of Lilies. Again tho, could change it later and just haven't updated from early access planning.
Ohh, I see. I missed that. I initially thought this was in a future setting until I read that in-game comment so maybe they meant a recent exploration unrelated to that I guess (since they brought some findings/books from there) or I'm confusing it with something else.

But I definitely believe that's Lily herself, being a clone of what's supposed to live for a long time(?).
Coraru Jan 24 @ 5:17pm 
Oh for sure, I want to believe it's Lily also and lean more on the side of it being her.
It's just one of those things where until it gets confirmed in the future, potential DLC (Unlikely) or future Ender [Insert flower name here] games, it'll never be a 100%.
Vacenti Jan 24 @ 7:20pm 
I was also wondering why she is using the umbral knights cloak, but maybe she can't call upon them anymore. I'm pretty sure she states she can no longer cleanse blight anymore after using it (if it is lily or a descendant), so I wonder if she has lost her phantom powers.

I mean they also state lilac shares the immortal priestess' blood, which i assume is either lily herself from a long time ago or is talking about another priestess? IDK they only hint at it. They never really even explained why lilac was found in the land of origin in the first place i don't think. I mean, she obviously has ties to Lily's bloodline somehow but was just found in this area below the city and was being studied just before crap hit the fan.
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Ruka Jan 25 @ 2:28am 
The promo site for Ender Magnolia says "Follow the journey of destruction and rebirth in a post-apocalyptic world, decades after the disastrous Rain of Death." Lily was a child when she purified the Blight in Land's End, which gives plenty of room for her to have become an adult in that time.

Presumably she ran out of space healing Land's End and thus can no longer absorb any more Blight - she's hit physical capacity, there's only so much any single priestess' body can take.

Given the good/true ending of Ender Lilies, I doubt she's lost her powers to channel ghosts since she's clearly walking around a land full of messed up Homunculi without a scratch; it makes more sense to me imo that she's keeping them hidden or that nobody else can see them. She's a true necromancer, unlike the Tuners, and her powers don't seem to intersect with the magic the Parasol draws from the Land of Origin.
Originally posted by Vacenti:
I was also wondering why she is using the umbral knights cloak, but maybe she can't call upon them anymore. I'm pretty sure she states she can no longer cleanse blight anymore after using it (if it is lily or a descendant), so I wonder if she has lost her phantom powers.

I mean they also state lilac shares the immortal priestess' blood, which i assume is either lily herself from a long time ago or is talking about another priestess? IDK they only hint at it. They never really even explained why lilac was found in the land of origin in the first place i don't think. I mean, she obviously has ties to Lily's bloodline somehow but was just found in this area below the city and was being studied just before crap hit the fan.
We know that there were clones of white priestesses by various lands. Lilac could be similar clone, but of another priestess.

Regarding why Lilac was in the Land of Origin. There is a note from Joran which mentions that he looked inside the Pillar of Purification, and was unpleasantly surprised by what was inside. Pillar is meant to absorb the Blight. And white priestesses are meant to absort the Blight. Which makes me think that they did put a white priestess, or her clone, inside the Pillar, and that was Lilac. Otherwise, the whole thread of Pillar of Purification seems to be loose for me.
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Ruka Jan 25 @ 9:40pm 
Originally posted by lentinant:
Regarding why Lilac was in the Land of Origin. There is a note from Joran which mentions that he looked inside the Pillar of Purification, and was unpleasantly surprised by what was inside. Pillar is meant to absorb the Blight. And white priestesses are meant to absort the Blight. Which makes me think that they did put a white priestess, or her clone, inside the Pillar, and that was Lilac. Otherwise, the whole thread of Pillar of Purification seems to be loose for me.

Yup, the implication is that Lilac was there to be a sacrificial battery for the Pillar (and since Reibolg says that Lilia walked into the pillar herself and closed it from the inside, Lilia served the same purpose).

House Frost already had the technology to turn artificially made priestesses into little purification devices, which is how the Tuners Attuners use to do their job work, so Lilac's baby capsule is just a bigger version of that that you can't hang on your hip.

(Also I suspect that, since Abelia had access to the Land of Origin and it's mentioned that the Ancients lived and were buried there, she either took DNA samples straight from the source, as it were, being a priestess herself who was jumping from body to body and is centuries old - or she took them from the Land of Origin, and that's where both Lilac and Lilia come from.)
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Belforks Jan 26 @ 12:15am 
i personally think its Lily, she looks nearly the same along with how she's wearing the umbral knight's cloak and maybe boots as well, she even gives Lilac the Aegis Curio which is what she used in the first game.Even the music that plays when she talks is the exact same one that plays in EL.
Last edited by Belforks; Jan 26 @ 12:15am
Originally posted by Ruka:
Originally posted by lentinant:
Regarding why Lilac was in the Land of Origin. There is a note from Joran which mentions that he looked inside the Pillar of Purification, and was unpleasantly surprised by what was inside. Pillar is meant to absorb the Blight. And white priestesses are meant to absort the Blight. Which makes me think that they did put a white priestess, or her clone, inside the Pillar, and that was Lilac. Otherwise, the whole thread of Pillar of Purification seems to be loose for me.

Yup, the implication is that Lilac was there to be a sacrificial battery for the Pillar (and since Reibolg says that Lilia walked into the pillar herself and closed it from the inside, Lilia served the same purpose).

House Frost already had the technology to turn artificially made priestesses into little purification devices, which is how the Tuners Attuners use to do their job work, so Lilac's baby capsule is just a bigger version of that that you can't hang on your hip.

(Also I suspect that, since Abelia had access to the Land of Origin and it's mentioned that the Ancients lived and were buried there, she either took DNA samples straight from the source, as it were, being a priestess herself who was jumping from body to body and is centuries old - or she took them from the Land of Origin, and that's where both Lilac and Lilia come from.)
Ah, Lilac being inside is a nice idea. Honestly, I was a little lost on the period of those files/cutscenes so it was hard to make connections properly (I wish they did a better job at noting that instead of leaving it vague. EL handled that kind of stuff better).

Now the question is if Lilac is a clone herself. Considering as you said, the files already mentioned them using the Land's End technology to do that. There are even tons of capsules you find in the upper stratum that maintain the barrier (although, I'm not sure if that's a clone disolved into liquid or something alike)
The storepage mentions that the game play decades after Lilies but aside from the fact that Lili was a kid which gives her quite some years to life after the game she also is not human. She is an ancient, who knows how that effects her aging. Maybe she ages differently not to mention the whole blight business. If there are still remnants of blight in her system she might as well be immortal since blightflesh is supposed to be pretty much indestructible due to its regeneration aside from cleansing by white priestess.
Veriti Jan 26 @ 9:33pm 
Lily is full of blight so I doubt she ages anymore. If you compare her to how she looked in ending C cutscene, she looks the same. She probably wears the cloak and boots and stuff to hide the blight on her body. It's also clear that she's learned quite a bit since the first game. She apparently dispelled an ancient barrier that was just in her way in the land of origin.

As for Lilac we know she is a clone. The notes mention that House Frost and House Milius made a Purifier device that would ease the burden on Attuners by limiting the blight effect. Joran has a note mentioning he regrets discovering what the purifier actually is. Then there was another note in the bio lab area I believe that mentions that the purifier was a child clone of a white priestess sealed in a tube inserted into the land of origin.

They probably should have stopped their survey teams from going deep enough to find it because the survey team obviously didn't know who or what Lilac was when they found a baby down there which is why they immediately rescued her and took her to the surface.
iriyap Jan 26 @ 11:59pm 
I guess the reason she wears Umbral Knight's hood is to hide the tentacles. Although it's up to your headcanon, and can be interpreted either way.

That part when she says "I'm exhausted and need to rest for a while" while Lilac keeps repeatedly asking if she is okay made me worried, as it felt like a huge death flag, but thankfully it was averted.
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