Light No Fire

Light No Fire

Light No Fire ММОРПГ или просто сетевая игра?
Вся тема в названии, добавить нечего, точно не буду играть просто в сетевую игру с парой десятков игроков. При таком размере это должна быть полноценная ММО с десятками тысяч подключений в одном открытом мире.
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No one knows for sure.

Best guess, it will probably work like No Man's Sky, one world for all players, but players divided into lobbies/instances/sessions of 32 players. Not a true MMO.
Ozwald Jan 26 @ 9:45am 
Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
No one knows for sure.

Best guess, it will probably work like No Man's Sky, one world for all players, but players divided into lobbies/instances/sessions of 32 players. Not a true MMO.

It's a brand new game. Why would you assume that it would work like their old game? I honestly think this low brow conjecture isn't doing HG nor LNF any favors.
Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
No one knows for sure.

Best guess, it will probably work like No Man's Sky, one world for all players, but players divided into lobbies/instances/sessions of 32 players. Not a true MMO.
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Никто точно не знает.
Лучшее предположение - это будет похоже на No Man's Sky: один мир для всех игроков, но игроки разделены на лобби/инстансы/сессии по 32 игрока. Не настоящая MMO.
Originally posted by Ozwald:
Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
No one knows for sure.

Best guess, it will probably work like No Man's Sky, one world for all players, but players divided into lobbies/instances/sessions of 32 players. Not a true MMO.

It's a brand new game. Why would you assume that it would work like their old game? I honestly think this low brow conjecture isn't doing HG nor LNF any favors.
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Это совершенно новая игра. С чего вы взяли, что она будет работать так же, как их старая игра? Я искренне считаю, что эти низкопробные домыслы не идут на пользу ни HG, ни LNF.
Ozwald Jan 26 @ 12:23pm 
Originally posted by Divine Star Emperor:
Originally posted by Ozwald:

It's a brand new game. Why would you assume that it would work like their old game? I honestly think this low brow conjecture isn't doing HG nor LNF any favors.
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Это совершенно новая игра. С чего вы взяли, что она будет работать так же, как их старая игра? Я искренне считаю, что эти низкопробные домыслы не идут на пользу ни HG, ни LNF.

Извините, я бы ответил по-русски. Я учусь всего 5 лет, так что мой русский не очень хорош.
Originally posted by Ozwald:
Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
No one knows for sure.

Best guess, it will probably work like No Man's Sky, one world for all players, but players divided into lobbies/instances/sessions of 32 players. Not a true MMO.

It's a brand new game. Why would you assume that it would work like their old game? I honestly think this low brow conjecture isn't doing HG nor LNF any favors.

I am not assuming anything, which is why I preface my comments with "No one knows for sure....Best guess"

Here is what we know so far.

1. Steam page list the game as "solo and online co-op"

2. Trailer shows what looks like four to eight player characters at any given time. The only time you see more than eight characters on screen is the kneeling bunnies and those look more like NPC.

3. The trailer looks like an improved version of the NMS engine.

4. History of the company is relevant.

Nothing suggest MMO with thousands of players per server. However, given the lack of information there is a non-zero chance the game will have MMO features.
Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
Originally posted by Ozwald:

It's a brand new game. Why would you assume that it would work like their old game? I honestly think this low brow conjecture isn't doing HG nor LNF any favors.

I am not assuming anything, which is why I preface my comments with "No one knows for sure....Best guess"

Here is what we know so far.

1. Steam page list the game as "solo and online co-op"

2. Trailer shows what looks like four to eight player characters at any given time. The only time you see more than eight characters on screen is the kneeling bunnies and those look more like NPC.

3. The trailer looks like an improved version of the NMS engine.

4. History of the company is relevant.

Nothing suggest MMO with thousands of players per server. However, given the lack of information there is a non-zero chance the game will have MMO features.
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Я ничего не предполагаю, поэтому и предваряю свои комментарии словами «Никто не знает наверняка....Best guess».
Вот что мы знаем на данный момент.
1. На странице Steam игра представлена как «одиночная и онлайн-кооператив».

2. В трейлере показано от четырех до восьми персонажей в любой момент времени. Единственный раз, когда вы видите больше восьми персонажей на экране, - это стоящие на коленях кролики, которые больше похожи на NPC.

3. Трейлер выглядит как улучшенная версия движка NMS.
4. История компании актуальна.

Ничто не предвещает MMO с тысячами игроков на одном сервере. Однако, учитывая недостаток информации, есть ненулевая вероятность того, что игра будет иметь MMO-функции.
Ozwald Jan 27 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
Originally posted by Ozwald:

It's a brand new game. Why would you assume that it would work like their old game? I honestly think this low brow conjecture isn't doing HG nor LNF any favors.

I am not assuming anything,

That's ALL you're doing

Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
1. Steam page list the game as "solo and online co-op"

Doesn't mean much

Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
2. Trailer shows what looks like

Assumption. Conjecture.

Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
3. The trailer looks like an improved version of the NMS engine.

Another assumption. Conjecture.

Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
4. History of the company is relevant.

Not an assumption, but completely asinine & incorrect.
Ozwald

I have summarized what little information we have, made observations and reasoned supposition while clearly stating nothing is known for certain.

You have been argumentative, insulting and have added nothing of value to this thread. I have nothing more to say to you on this matter,
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Divine Star Emperor

I'm sorry this thread went in this direction. Try again when we have more information.
Ozwald Jan 28 @ 10:16am 
Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
Ozwald

I have summarized what little information we have, made observations and reasoned supposition while clearly stating nothing is known for certain.

You have been argumentative, insulting and have added nothing of value to this thread. I have nothing more to say to you on this matter,

No, you've summarized your assumptions and refuse to recognize that. Do you know what the word 'conjecture' even means? Because this is a text book case of it.

There is absolutely nothing that says the trailer is gameplay at all. You're making a lot of assumptions based on that opinion alone.

Same with the history of the company. Saying a studio is only going to turn out 1 style of game is asinine. Do you assume that a new album by a musically intelligent band is going to sound exactly like the last one? This isn't a debate if the new album is going to use a guitar in the making - artists are going to have a 'style', but to assume that this is going to be anything like their previous endeavors is asinine. I can sense little bits of the studio in Last Campfire, but to someone who's never played either, no ones going to automatically assume those were created by the same group.

The only reason you think this is 'argumentative' is because your assumptions are being challenged & you don't have an answer for it, because it is pure assumption with no basis in the few facts that we do know.

And disproving conjecture is adding plenty. A lie unchallenged becomes truth.

Also, I didn't give you the clown, but I don't disagree with whomever did. Everything you've added in this thread has been absolutely ridiculous. That's not insulting. It's the truth. Cold & to the point, but the truth nonetheless. I took no personal shots at you, just your ideas.
Originally posted by Ozwald:
Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:

I am not assuming anything,

That's ALL you're doing

Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
1. Steam page list the game as "solo and online co-op"

Doesn't mean much

Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
2. Trailer shows what looks like

Assumption. Conjecture.

Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
3. The trailer looks like an improved version of the NMS engine.

Another assumption. Conjecture.

Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
4. History of the company is relevant.

Not an assumption, but completely asinine & incorrect.
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Это не предположение, но совершенно бессмысленное и неверное.
Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
Ozwald

I have summarized what little information we have, made observations and reasoned supposition while clearly stating nothing is known for certain.

You have been argumentative, insulting and have added nothing of value to this thread. I have nothing more to say to you on this matter,
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Озвальд

Я обобщил то немногое, что у нас есть, сделал наблюдения и обоснованные предположения, но при этом четко заявил, что ничего не известно наверняка.

Вы спорили, оскорбляли и не добавили ничего ценного в эту тему. Мне больше нечего сказать вам по этому вопросу
Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
Divine Star Emperor

I'm sorry this thread went in this direction. Try again when we have more information.
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Божественный Звездный Император

Мне жаль, что эта тема зашла в такое русло. Попробуйте снова, когда у нас будет больше информации.
Originally posted by Ozwald:
Originally posted by Lindy Bomber:
Ozwald

I have summarized what little information we have, made observations and reasoned supposition while clearly stating nothing is known for certain.

You have been argumentative, insulting and have added nothing of value to this thread. I have nothing more to say to you on this matter,

No, you've summarized your assumptions and refuse to recognize that. Do you know what the word 'conjecture' even means? Because this is a text book case of it.

There is absolutely nothing that says the trailer is gameplay at all. You're making a lot of assumptions based on that opinion alone.

Same with the history of the company. Saying a studio is only going to turn out 1 style of game is asinine. Do you assume that a new album by a musically intelligent band is going to sound exactly like the last one? This isn't a debate if the new album is going to use a guitar in the making - artists are going to have a 'style', but to assume that this is going to be anything like their previous endeavors is asinine. I can sense little bits of the studio in Last Campfire, but to someone who's never played either, no ones going to automatically assume those were created by the same group.

The only reason you think this is 'argumentative' is because your assumptions are being challenged & you don't have an answer for it, because it is pure assumption with no basis in the few facts that we do know.

And disproving conjecture is adding plenty. A lie unchallenged becomes truth.

Also, I didn't give you the clown, but I don't disagree with whomever did. Everything you've added in this thread has been absolutely ridiculous. That's not insulting. It's the truth. Cold & to the point, but the truth nonetheless. I took no personal shots at you, just your ideas.
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Нет, вы обобщили свои предположения и отказываетесь это признать. Вы вообще знаете, что означает слово «предположение»? Потому что это как раз тот случай.

Нет абсолютно ничего, что говорило бы о том, что трейлер вообще является геймплеем. Вы делаете кучу предположений, основываясь только на этом мнении.

То же самое с историей компании. Говорить, что студия будет выпускать игры только в одном стиле, просто глупо. Вы полагаете, что новый альбом музыкально интеллектуальной группы будет звучать точно так же, как предыдущий? Это не спор о том, будет ли в новом альбоме использована гитара - у артистов есть свой «стиль», но предполагать, что этот будет хоть чем-то похож на их предыдущие работы, просто немыслимо. Я чувствую крупицы студийности в Last Campfire, но тот, кто никогда не играл ни на одном из этих альбомов, не будет автоматически считать, что они созданы одной и той же группой.

Единственная причина, по которой вы считаете это «спорным», заключается в том, что ваши предположения оспариваются, и у вас нет на них ответа, потому что это чистое предположение, не имеющее под собой никаких оснований в тех немногих фактах, которые нам известны.

А опровержение догадок добавляет множество фактов. Не опровергнутая ложь становится правдой.

Кроме того, я не давал вам клоуна, но я не возражаю против того, кто это сделал. Все, что вы добавили в этой теме, было абсолютно нелепо. Это не оскорбление. Это правда. Холодная и точная, но тем не менее правда. Я не нападал на вас лично, просто на ваши идеи.
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