We need PVE Mode, but would this kill the game?

[EstarlightPibe]

I really want PVE Mode, only because the queue of the game its waay too long, not because im afraid to fight other players, honestly one easy solution i would find to this is to put a limit in queue, like a minute or so, and then you would either way hop in a raid with or without players, since honestly i cant wait 10 minutes to play one game and still die (im still bad at it i know lol, that's my bad).

But still, im up for PVE only because i cant join games quickly enough, but will that kill the PVP game?

i dont thinks so, players that want to play PVE wont play that much PVP, or either ways will find their way out of the game and enjoy other games that has PVE or less frustating for them.

What do you think about it? (Sorry for my bad england)

[HariTyan]

I can certainly understand the opinion that you want it because you're making people wait too long.
I'd be happy to see it implemented.

[HariTyan]

After all, at this bad time, they make you wait for 30 minutes, so I think something should be done about it.
If you make users wait that long, players will quit and the game will become overpopulated.

[EstarlightPibe]

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After all, at this bad time, they make you wait for 30 minutes, so I think something should be done about it.
If you make users wait that long, players will quit and the game will become overpopulated.

Absolutely, sometimes i hate PVP when i just want to chill, but honestly its just horrible dying to a skilled and fully geared player (sometimes not) and losing everything just to wait another 10 minutes to queue in lol

[Raell]

If you queue with a specific region during non-peak hours you will almost never get a queue. The exact same issue will happen if there is PvE mode. Cutting the playerbase in 2 pieces will make queues longer, people will stop queuing and give up and then the game dies.

TLDR: Just use Auto for your region select and try to play during peak hours.

[Spykey]

Just use Auto and get matched with 200 ping players ? Much rather play PvE where im sure i died by my own misstakes not because of some sweaty player or because of 200 ms due to lack of players in my region.
That being said. PvE mode would attract more players who are not playing right now due to PvP, so the queue times would not be increased.

[Raell]

İlk olarak Spykey tarafından gönderildi:

Just use Auto and get matched with 200 ping players ? Much rather play PvE where im sure i died by my own misstakes not because of some sweaty player or because of 200 ms due to lack of players in my region.
That being said. PvE mode would attract more players who are not playing right now due to PvP, so the queue times would not be increased.

PvE does not attract more players than the amount of PvPers who will go play PvE because of increased queue times due to a drop in the playerbase of PvP. Then the PvE players can't come back because PvP has infinite queue times.

I've explained this dozens of times, but if you add PvE and people go join PvE then the PvP queues skyrocket and then people give up and when they give up the PvP queues go even higher and eventually the game literally dies. It's critical threshold that if you pass it, the game is dead.

I've seen it time and time again for queue based matchmaking including Tarkov where the devs had to reduce the minimum requirement for matches temporarily because so many people FROM PvP went over to PvE, not new players buying it.... existing players leaving it. Tarkov has millions of players though, so a solution like that works. This game does not.

[Hoshi82]

+1 for pve mode

[Illuminum]

+1 for pve

[Spykey]

+1 for pve

[Comrade]

would buy the game for PvE.

[noc]

game mode in in early alpha.. not even beta.. started 3 weeks ago.. game is not even released and far from it, full of bugs and for some ppl not even running.. and u already want new toys, new mode, u want to turn it into tabor? not finished game that barely runs full of kids and new shiny toys and dlcs to the point of being unplayable? do any game need to be easy for your dumb genaration? maybe u want some 3 ai companions that will kill everybody around u to lead u thru game? there is plenty easy simple games that u can finish in few hours .. no reason to turn the only competitive fps title into corpse yet, but if u want singleplayer and coop contractors vr has same engine and singleplayer mode.. tabor has extraction pve mode :P go check how fun it is to play those.. its as fun as sitting inside sports car closed inside garage.. may be nice once or two times, but does not compare to driving it on the streets or race track competitively for weeks, months or years.

[Zenbat]

i say yes, down the road they should make a pve mode, but before they do, they need to fix not being able to load into raids. This is still alpha and i understand that things take time but to have everything lost due to a glitch and no recovery system set in place because of glitch makes this game 100% unplayable. But yeah if they can get a separate no wipe pve mode so casual players like me and many others. While i agree that you could probably get more mileage out of PVP, i want to enjoy a game with a great system with pve until i either beat it or get bored of it, i've been playing PVE Tabor since it came out and i'm still having fun with it, actually got to level 5 spectre within a MONTH. I barely got to level 4 spectre once in a single wipe and the missions keep it going for me. But for the most part, multiplayer can be fun but with the way games like these are made, its really just a gamble if you do good or not no matter how many hours you spend into it and its constantly stressful losing all your ♥♥♥♥ to people who either lag or just play the game for the PVP and become gigachads. I would prefer my PVP to have less at stake, because games like these, extraction shooters usually have a massive quest system and all kinds of nice systems in them that are ruined because people just want to go on killing sprees and make sure no one can progress. Its the most toxic type of PVP out there right now, almost as bad as playing mobas with ANYONE who takes the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game seriously.

I digress though, did want to try the game for its pvp set up if i could. But alas, crashing before raid and losing a bunch of kits to it is a lot worse than losing everything to some chad out in the field.

[Raell]

Again the issue with trying to play this game PvE is there is zero threat. You can do every run without armor or helmet and have zero risk unless you do something dumb. You can jiggle peak the AI and lock them in place while resetting their engagement timer so they do not shoot.

Would you really need all those hideout upgrades to make fighting braindead scavs easier?... Like seriously??

[Snow]

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İlk olarak Spykey tarafından gönderildi:

Just use Auto and get matched with 200 ping players ? Much rather play PvE where im sure i died by my own misstakes not because of some sweaty player or because of 200 ms due to lack of players in my region.
That being said. PvE mode would attract more players who are not playing right now due to PvP, so the queue times would not be increased.

PvE does not attract more players than the amount of PvPers who will go play PvE because of increased queue times due to a drop in the playerbase of PvP. Then the PvE players can't come back because PvP has infinite queue times.

I've explained this dozens of times, but if you add PvE and people go join PvE then the PvP queues skyrocket and then people give up and when they give up the PvP queues go even higher and eventually the game literally dies. It's critical threshold that if you pass it, the game is dead.

I've seen it time and time again for queue based matchmaking including Tarkov where the devs had to reduce the minimum requirement for matches temporarily because so many people FROM PvP went over to PvE, not new players buying it.... existing players leaving it. Tarkov has millions of players though, so a solution like that works. This game does not.

hey kiddo? there is a MASSIVE portion of gamers who aren't into PVP like you. you aren't the only gamer on the planet your personal opinion is irrelevant when it comes to OTHER people wanting a pve mode so they can relax and enjoy a game, just because you dont want one doesn't mean others cant, so chill out your getting butthurt over people requesting a fairly reasonable feature..

[Oats Lore]

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would buy the game for PvE.

i would aswell ima be honest i cant handle pvp im to ass