Are they launching 2025?

[smonster]

Does anyone know if there is going to be a single payment 2025 version? If so, when should be it launched?

[SpacemanJupiter]

I've heard that IF it comes, it will be around mid December. Hope it does.

[Kunar]

Or they will delete it like sampler for example.I dont know if I have to try wait for 2025 and possibly get nothing or I buy version 2024.

[smonster]

Originally posted by SpacemanJupiter:

I've heard that IF it comes, it will be around mid December. Hope it does.

That day is not far away I hope they do. Thank you for your answer!

Originally posted by Kunar:

Or they will delete it like sampler for example.I don't know if I have to try wait for 2025 and possibly get nothing or I buy version 2024.

Maybe I will take the risk and buy it in case it's not out by the end of December. Thanks

[Kunar]

Or you can wait until december and buy the 2024 before that certain peroir and wait and if they will release the 2025 you can refund the old one.If I am not mistaken you have 14 days for refund without playing/using it.

[Elemeno.]

personally if they didnt ... i wouldnt subscribe on adobe , i would pay the extra and buy marmoset toolbag 5

[Recon]

Originally posted by Elemeno.:

personally if they didnt ... i wouldnt subscribe on adobe , i would pay the extra and buy marmoset toolbag 5

Unreal has a version called Texture Graph, and its looking up.. .. InstaMat, they have competition, so Adobe ruins everything they touch.

[smonster]

Originally posted by Recon:

Originally posted by Elemeno.:

personally if they didnt ... i wouldnt subscribe on adobe , i would pay the extra and buy marmoset toolbag 5

Unreal has a version called Texture Graph, and its looking up.. .. InstaMat, they have competition, so Adobe ruins everything they touch.

I will consider it, but first let's see Adobe's move.

[Sooty]

do the steam versions have the same thing as creative cloud where they have access to all your data and use it to train their AI or are the steam versions detached from that?

[Kunar]

I dont know.Its hard to say but you dont have the cloud with steam version.

[Ace_Of_Hades]

They are late as of last years release date.

I guess the BS continues.

[It's about sending a message]

Originally posted by Sooty:

do the steam versions have the same thing as creative cloud where they have access to all your data and use it to train their AI or are the steam versions detached from that?

Originally posted by Kunar:

I dont know.Its hard to say but you dont have the cloud with steam version.

No. There's no Adobe account/etc. Painter doesn't really have a EULA anymore and Designer's EULA is from like 2021.
Ignoring the fact that Adobe is very sloppy with their EULAs, and that it could be used against them in a court of law, it doesn't matter as you literally can't log into anything anyway with these versions. They're standalone.
Correction: They updated the EULA for Designer from 21 to 24, but there's still no Painter EULA.

[Jerc]

Official news on the 2025 versions here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2718190/discussions/0/604145113591983907/

[Mauve!]

I'm not sure, I was just about to make a similar post as I've got the same dilemma haha. Just tried to ask an agent through Adobe's chat service, but no luck. They weren't aware perpetual licenses were available here, let alone Steam existing as a platform in the first place.

[smonster]

Originally posted by Jerc:

Official news on the 2025 versions here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2718190/discussions/0/604145113591983907/

Thank you for replying!!

[Jerc]

The 2025 versions are now available, no update on the Designer side since the last release in January, but we'll have news at GDC next week!

YOu can now purchase Designer as a standalone, like before, but also have the choice of an Indie subscription that includes Painter, Designer and Modeler, plus 1000 models and materials.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3366300/Substance_3D_Designer_2025/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3366290/Substance_3D_Painter_2025/