Official news about 2025 versions

[Jerc]

Hello everyone, sorry for the radio silence these past few months, I'm typically monitoring the Steam forums but have been super busy lately.
The 2025 versions will be available on Steam soon. In the past, we've usually "released" the next version early, even if the first big update was a month or two later. This year, the release of the 2025 versions of our tools will coincide with the first major update of Painter for 2025, in March.
In the meantime, any update between now and then will be covered by the 2024 license.

[Paradyse]

Thank you for the clarification!

[nomorevideos]

Cool.

Will there still be minor bug fixes till then? I've posted about a bug on the Adobe Community before and even sent a bug report in-app, but nothing ever happened regarding the issue I'm experiencing.
Essentially I have a Wacom Intuous and the pen's two quick buttons will break on a specific, but rather common action. This only happens for Painter and not other programs like Blender for example.
The issue is that if I alt-tab out of Painter/hover off painter and click a new window, and then I lift and lower the pen again (to for example reposition the pen on the tablet's surface, which'll happen all the time), and then I tab/click back into Painter, the two buttons on the pen will fail to be recognized. The pen interacts with Painter with its cursor and the tablet's own 4 shortcut buttons (which I use for left/right/middle click) fully function as well, but the pen's buttons break.
It's required to, once I tabbed/clicked back into Painter, to lift and lower the pen once again.
This issue seems quite minor, but it sadly happens all the time, especially when doing stuff like dragging items into Painter. I'm very likely to lift and lower my pen while I'm out of Painter, to again reposition my pen (like you'd do with a mouse as well), to then for example drag and drop a texture/image/etc into Painter. I'd make the Painter window active again and the pen's cursor and the tablet's own buttons will work fine, but the pen's two buttons and the modifiers tied to them (alt/shift) will be inactive/broken until I once again lift the pen out of range of the tablet and put it back then.
It hinders usability quite a bit and the only way to "fix" it is to match the pen's buttons' Painter settings globally. Globally the buttons on the pen to nothing, but in certain programs like Blender, Painter, etc, I've set them to things like shift, alt, ctrl, and so on. What's needed for the program in question essentially.
I simply don't understand why it's only happening for Painter and no other program I've set custom pen buttons to inside the Wacom software. The pen's cursor/pointer continues to function and interact with Painter, same as the tablet's buttons. But the pen's buttons simply break, and their modifiers I've set to be used inside of Painter seemingly won't work anymore until stuff is "refreshed" by lifting the pen out of range and lowering it back down again.
I've tried several different Wacom drivers, including the newer ones with the ugly/confusing Center UI rework, but it still happens.

Wacom CTL-4100, Desktop Center Driver 6.3.43-3

I'm also using three monitors and the pen's in mouse and not pen (absolute) mode, so the whole lifting while outside of Painter issue occurs a lot.

I doubt this'll get fixed until 2025 released, if ever, but it would be nice if it could get fixed. Setting modifiers to the buttons globally is a workaround, just a very poor one in my case.

[SpaceNinjaPirate]

Thank you very much for the update! This makes things a bit more clear!

However, I wonder if you would be able to answer the other looming question I'm sure is in the back of a lot of peoples' minds at this moment. Will the license for Painter 2025 remain a perpetual license or will there be changes to that too?

Any information you could provide on that topic would be very much appreciated.

[Liuuuzaki]

March? Nooooooo _(┐ ◟;ﾟдﾟ)ノ

[CMK]

Will it still be perpetual?

[Elemeno.]

Originally posted by CMK:

Will it still be perpetual?

ive asked this question a million times now , and they keep skipping it or deflecting , so im not too confident , nobody would purchase on here if it was , alot like myself buy perpetual license every year because its owned

[ostapblender]

Originally posted by CMK:

Will it still be perpetual?

yes, you can't make it non-perpetual on steam

[Paradyse]

Originally posted by ostapblender:

Originally posted by CMK:

Will it still be perpetual?

yes, you can't make it non-perpetual on steam

That's incorrect, Steam allows subscription based models. Check Houdini for example. You can only pay annually and it's on Steam.

[DeanBDean]

Thanks for the update. It's kind of a bummer though because I'm looking to buy Designer but I don't want to buy the 2024 now that won't get updates in just a short time...

[Recon]

Originally posted by Jerc:

Hello everyone, sorry for the radio silence these past few months, I'm typically monitoring the Steam forums but have been super busy lately.
The 2025 versions will be available on Steam soon. In the past, we've usually "released" the next version early, even if the first big update was a month or two later. This year, the release of the 2025 versions of our tools will coincide with the first major update of Painter for 2025, in March.
In the meantime, any update between now and then will be covered by the 2024 license.

Ya, thanks for posting here, I had asked on Discord, but one of your mods banned me, for asking, and bitc@ed me out... SO I was one who had asked on Discord... I been a long time users since it existed so it would be great if you can keep us up to date here as best you can..

I also keep the UE Adobe Developers in the loop with updates Wazaldo... ( He is cool)
but one of your blue mods had a power trip/bad day.?? Not sure what is the deal with non employee blue mods..

and yells at users for asking.... and then perma bans us..So it would be great to know what is going on here if possible since some of us long time users who are contractors, who do this for living, cant get info from Discord due to this mod..

Thanks. Jerc for the update.,

[Manic Maker]

I'm also hoping to get some clarification on if the pricing model is planned to be changed going forward, as the major reason for wanting to make use of Substance Painter on Steam is for the perpetual option rather than a subscription model. It transitioning to a subscription model here as well would honestly defeat the purpose of a steam version entirely.

[SpacemanJupiter]

There is no point of having this software on Steam unless it is a perpetual license. We need clarification on that. It is closing in on Feb with no answer.

[CH3R]

Originally posted by SpacemanJupiter:

There is no point of having this software on Steam unless it is a perpetual license. We need clarification on that. It is closing in on Feb with no answer.

Do you think it is safer to just purchase 2024? Is there much point or difference in the updates worth having? Swear the updates are incredibly similar

[Jerc]

Yes there will be perpetual versions of the 2025 apps.

[BADGUY]

Originally posted by Jerc:

Yes there will be perpetual versions of the 2025 apps.

I love you so much!!!