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Use HDDs for storage, not for Apps or Games.
HDDs are fine though for low demanding indie games and such or similar games that don't have a ton of loading and in-game prefetching to do as you play.
Will have to be Monday now.
Unless you or your PC guy also have a spare SATA cable lying around, then get one of those at the same time for a new SSD drive. You can keep your HDD for additional storage.
If you need to backup data like your ATS/ETS2 progress, then remember to do this also.
My sys after boot beep/post is '2' - '3' secs max and straight into windows.
You're nvme boot should be loading much, much faster than that.
I have made a note to ask him about
SATA cable. Denpending on what price he come's up with'
I am going with the SSD and 8gb more RAM. I am not going
to know untill Monday.
So when it came time to upgrade my GT1030, I went bargain hunting and found an ASUS TUF Gaming 1650 Super 4GB OC, WD 1TB M.2 SSD, and 32GB RAM for under $500. I'm not sure how an M.2 stacks up to an NVMe (maybe they're the same), but installing an M.2 for primary and running all my games / software from that M.2 was like night and day. Example, the previous 2:45 boot time was cut to 0:49. Now imagine that in terms of game data throughput. YEAH.
Picture a base Honda Accord compared to a Demon-package Dodge Challenger, that's the kind of difference it made. Like adding 20 psi of boost and 200 hp shot of nitrous oxide. Sure, it was reasonably fast before, no clipping, etc., but with the GPU, the 32GB RAM, and the M.2, well, let's just say that 90 mph in ATS FEELS like 90 mph now. And 200-300 mph in BeamNG.drive FEELS like 200-300 mph now. I honestly could not believe I was still rocking a 1700. :)
It's a one-time, long-term investment, and upgrading PCs is always more of an undertaking than it first seems. Do it right, or do it twice, I always say. Nobody wants to go into their computer three or four times in two years.
the tech stuff you were talking about. But i got the meaning of what
you said, I will sit down with PC guy, and make sure he understand's
what i want, and what is the best way of doing it.
He built the computer in the first place, i trust him to do what is best,
I have spoken to people whom he has done work for, they all said he is honest
and does good work.
I will let ever one know as soon as i can.
Thank you to everyone for the advice.
NVMe or Non-Volatile Memory Express is an industry-standard software interface that enables SSDs and other components to run directly through the PCI Express (PCIe) physical interface directly attached to a computer's processor. NVMe is an alternative to the older SATA interface that was designed to connect storage devices to computer motherboards. SATA does not have a direct link to the computer's processor.
M.2 is the newest form factor of SSD to hit the market, with an incredibly small footprint thanks to the NVMe interface. This means if your motherboard does not have a M.2 slot on it then you cannot install a M.2 SSD. Many NVMe SSDs use the M.2 form factor. M.2 slots are normally right next to the computer's processor (CPU) (within 1 - 1.5 inches).
A SATA SSD cannot use a M.2 slot.
If your interested you can read more here: https://www.digitalcitizen.life/m2-vs-nvme-ssd/
or here: https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/nvme-vs-m2
What *THEY* said. I did forget to mention that you need an M.2 specific slot, most newer motherboards have at least one or two. If you have one, get an M.2 - you won't be sorry. A typical SATA SSD is indeed faster than HDD, but an M.2 will leave them both in the dust any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
To break what I said down into layman's terms....
Your CPU can process data at up to a certain rate.
Your GPU can process data at up to a certain rate.
However...
Your storage can only access and relay data at up to a certain rate, which other components have been able to outrun for years.
Your RAM can only hold and process instructions at a certain rate as well. And the less you have, the more potential for a bottleneck as memory is cleared for new instructions. Ever get into a traffic backup because one or two lanes are shut down and three or four lanes of traffic are fighting to get into the one or two left open? That happens to data when component speed is mismatched.
So, in short, more RAM and faster storage are crucial to performance resource-intensive games such as ATS or BeamNG.drive. You can make up for a lot in these areas, even if your processor isn't the latest, greatest and fastest. With an M.2 SSD and 32GB RAM, my 1700s performance is on par with a 3700 with less RAM and a non-M.2 SSD.
All your components have to be able to keep up with each other in order to ensure peak performance. Even the performance of a 5950X ( AMD's latest bad-ass Ryzen ) will suffer if not equipped with a sufficient quantity of fast RAM and fast storage.
Another analogy here -- a Dodge HellCat or a Chevy Camaro ZL1 won't run near as fast with the base engine and stock 2-inch exhaust as they will with a supercharger and 4-inch exhaust. You have to let that engine breathe and move the air necessary to get the speed out of it. Same with PCs, component selection is everything, and each component has the potential to slow everything down.
I would check to see what motherboard your rig has -- if you have the MSI Bazooka B450M, you're golden - That's what I have, and it has an M.2 slot, but you have to remove your GPU to access it. But there are other boards out there that have one, hopefully yours is so equipped -- it will make a world of difference and M.2 SSDs are an excellent bang-for-the-buck in relation to speed.
Solid State Drive.
HDD = Hard Disk Drive
Solid State drives are faster and more reliable than HDDs because HDDs rely on moving parts that slow down data read-write processes, and will fail after so many hours. An SSD will eventually fail, but they last much longer than HDDs.
Keep in mind, however, that typical SATA SSDs that can replace a typical SATA HDD WILL increase performance, but if your rig supports NVMe or M.2, I would highly recommend going that route. Reason being that NVMe / M.2 is much, much faster than a typical SATA SSD replacement.
SATA, NVMe, and M.2 are all different interfaces that have their respective limitations and benefits. Think of the SATA as a base engine, the NVMe as that same engine with nitrous oxide, and the M.2 as that same engine with nitrous and a supercharger. Good, better, best. Fast, faster, fastest...
And there's nothing that says you have to completely ditch your original HDD either. I kept mine, but it's secondary storage now. The M.2, as I said earlier, increased my speed drastically, increasing boot speed alone by 72%, And combined with the faster GPU, more and faster RAM, I couldn't be happier with my rig, even if the 1700 isn't the top-of-the-line.
With this setup, I immensely enjoy BeamNG.drive's detail, speed and smoothness, while others are crying about the 'sucky' graphics, and I quite frankly don't understand what they're complaining about. It's all about ensuring your PC's component are well-selected to compliment each other and not slow each other down, and making sure your game and system settings are matched to get peak performance.
Sure, I could have gone bigger and badder with the GPU, but that would have required a power supply upgrade, something that wasn't really feasible with my rig (non-standard PS). And while I'd love to throw a Ryzen 3900 or 5950X in it to round it out, I really don't need to. My existing 1700 is way faster now than I thought it could ever be.