Steam input constantly reverting to default layout

[devoid]

Hello,

Since the new 1.51 update released a few hours ago, I've been having an issue with Steam input. If I alt-tab or go into the escape menu and back into drive mode, my custom PS5 controller input layout reverts to the official ATS provided layout. No matter what I do it seems like I cannot get it to properly stay under these conditions. I've made attempts to restart Steam as well as my PC. I am not using any mods. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[MagnusA]

There was a blog post about that a couple of days ago. See the News section here at Steam. New Controller Config or something like that.

Also, I think the release note / announcement today mentions this as well. Did you read that?

[Joe__Walker]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/270880/view/4581937714014585664

[devoid]

I've read through all that, and I understand that previously customized layouts will be reset upon upgrading to 1.51. What I don't understand is why my custom layout STILL keeps getting reset to the default on version 1.51 even after I've switched it back. Like I said, alt-tabbing or going into the escape menu immediately resets it back to the default ATS-provided layout. Perhaps in my custom config I'm missing a newly required action/button that it wants to see?

[Corleth]

Are you loading your old config somehow? If so, it gets reset by Steam, as the new one has higher version and takes over. You will have to recreate your old config by adjusting the new version instead. (Sorry about that, that's how Steam Input config changes work, there is not much we could have done about that).

[devoid]

Alright, completely recreating my configuration by modifying the new default layout and exporting as a new custom layout seems to have made it not freak out and revert back to the default. I was trying to re-load the exported layout I had saved from 1.50 originally, which it definitely didn't seem to like. Thank you for the quick response! Steam input and its behaviors can be very weird at times.

[SoanoS]

Originally posted by Corleth:

Are you loading your old config somehow? If so, it gets reset by Steam, as the new one has higher version and takes over. You will have to recreate your old config by adjusting the new version instead. (Sorry about that, that's how Steam Input config changes work, there is not much we could have done about that).

Could SCS, or someone publish a "classic" layout for both ATS and ETS2 that the players could load in game without having to manually rebuild it by hand? I have a memory capacity of a goldfish, I forget the layout the moment I look away from the layout image so I am afraid I wouldn't be able to recreate it myself.

[J-96]

Honestly all you have to do is reload their Default Steam Controller Config as it is already forcing you to. The marked incompatible layout could just be copied by hand onto their new default with no issue, at least for buttons on the driving scheme. I removed mode shifts under driving scheme, reapplied my own button layout for regular and long press and double press. No issue, can still use my setup for control so long as I updated to their latest default preset before customization. Larger changes & more vast layer changes I can't tell you how it will go.

[MetalCh3]

Originally posted by Corleth:

Are you loading your old config somehow? If so, it gets reset by Steam, as the new one has higher version and takes over. You will have to recreate your old config by adjusting the new version instead. (Sorry about that, that's how Steam Input config changes work, there is not much we could have done about that).

Nothing like trying to bypass some imaginary problem that didn't exist before just when you wanted to relax to some truck driving in the middle of the night when you have work tomorrow.

I meticulously edited my steam controller scheme with buttons having more than one function, pressing, holding, double clicking, all had different functions. It took several hours over weeks getting it just the way I wanted. And it worked for years without a hiccup. And now my scheme doesn't even load.

While it is true I can just copy the settings onto the default one by hand, it is also the case this would take me at least an hour. It is just meaningless labor. All for what, you wanted to create an imitation of Steam input that is less functional than steam input to be put into the game, or maybe something else, I don't know for sure.

You do realize there are many people who created their own controller schemes right? All the effort it took them to customize their control scheme is now in the trash.

[Wolfgang]

Originally posted by MetalCh3:

Originally posted by Corleth:

Are you loading your old config somehow? If so, it gets reset by Steam, as the new one has higher version and takes over. You will have to recreate your old config by adjusting the new version instead. (Sorry about that, that's how Steam Input config changes work, there is not much we could have done about that).

Nothing like trying to bypass some imaginary problem that didn't exist before just when you wanted to relax to some truck driving in the middle of the night when you have work tomorrow.

I meticulously edited my steam controller scheme with buttons having more than one function, pressing, holding, double clicking, all had different functions. It took several hours over weeks getting it just the way I wanted. And it worked for years without a hiccup. And now my scheme doesn't even load.

While it is true I can just copy the settings onto the default one by hand, it is also the case this would take me at least an hour. It is just meaningless labor. All for what, you wanted to create an imitation of Steam input that is less functional than steam input to be put into the game, or maybe something else, I don't know for sure.

You do realize there are many people who created their own controller schemes right? All the effort it took them to customize their control scheme is now in the trash.

Complain to Steam that they don't give you a way to easily update your controller config like any in-game controller config is simply updated when the game is updated.

[MetalCh3]

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

Originally posted by MetalCh3:

Nothing like trying to bypass some imaginary problem that didn't exist before just when you wanted to relax to some truck driving in the middle of the night when you have work tomorrow.

I meticulously edited my steam controller scheme with buttons having more than one function, pressing, holding, double clicking, all had different functions. It took several hours over weeks getting it just the way I wanted. And it worked for years without a hiccup. And now my scheme doesn't even load.

While it is true I can just copy the settings onto the default one by hand, it is also the case this would take me at least an hour. It is just meaningless labor. All for what, you wanted to create an imitation of Steam input that is less functional than steam input to be put into the game, or maybe something else, I don't know for sure.

You do realize there are many people who created their own controller schemes right? All the effort it took them to customize their control scheme is now in the trash.

Complain to Steam that they don't give you a way to easily update your controller config like any in-game controller config is simply updated when the game is updated.

There comes Wolfgang again to suck it up to dews... If I recall correctly, you said you didn't even use Steam input?

Devs knew the limitations, they could've worked around it and they didn't.

[Wolfgang]

Originally posted by MetalCh3:

Originally posted by Wolfgang:

Complain to Steam that they don't give you a way to easily update your controller config like any in-game controller config is simply updated when the game is updated.

There comes Wolfgang again to suck it up to dews... If I recall correctly, you said you didn't even use Steam input? :cozyspaceengineersc:

Devs knew the limitations, they could've worked around it and they didn't.

There is no workaround with Steam Input. Imagine if you had to do all your settings in a game again just because the game got updated. Would you go to some mod creator to complain that your settings have been reverted?
No, you go to the company that doesn't let you keep your settings when there was an update.

Why is it so difficult here? Why do you think that you have to go to SCS to complain to them for Steam not having a way to update their settings? Complain to those who didn't bother implementing any good update system that is standard in basically anything that isn't an early alpha version.

[wedf]

"There is no workaround with Steam Input."
Then why I have been able to easily save and use my new layouts in all other Steam games, Wolfgang?