Are these games fun without a wheel?

[diji]

Always wondered about whether you can enjoy these games without going all out sim and setting up a wheel, trackIR/VR, etc.

[Eaves]

If you would like to "ENJOY" it, a wheel is a MUST. But there are people out there playing it with controllers. I personally see no point in playing a simulator without the propper gear/equipment.

[whiskas77]

entirely different concept with a wheel

[RIP_C.Bennington#LP_Forever]

I have played tousands of hours with keyboard, no problem for me.

[ketfliper]

no real fun without the steering wheel :-) and yes enjoyment can be move to another dimension by special settings.

[MaskMcgee]

Yes they are although I'd reccomend a xbox/ps4 controller at the minimum.

[Dr Nico]

XBOX one controller does the job fine too, just adjust wheel settings for sensitivity and non-linearity (put roughly same level on both), you get used to it pretty fast
I place a thick stick cap (about 3/4" height) for much better accuracy
But as said, best accuracy driving with a wheel

[Xegethra]

I used a controller for ages, this simulator isn't that deep....you can get away with it easily.

Then I got a wheel as a present and it is still fun, different....but then it comes down the set up, with pedals and maybe a gear stick.

Whether the game wants you to use a wheel or not doesn't matter, a controller will do you. You drive in plenty of other games with a pad, this game lets you too. It's just slower than those games.

[bukkie661]

Originally posted by Sir Bounce-a-lot:

I used a controller for ages, this simulator isn't that deep....you can get away with it easily.

Then I got a wheel as a present and it is still fun, different....but then it comes down the set up, with pedals and maybe a gear stick.

Whether the game wants you to use a wheel or not doesn't matter, a controller will do you. You drive in plenty of other games with a pad, this game lets you too. It's just slower than those games.

Using a controller is essential for Truckers MP-Promods. The multi-player is basically GTA5 'random race'-mode. Trying to enjoy that with an expensive wheel setup is just foolhardy.

[bukkie661]

A wheel is optional, I agree with the sentiments, but a real game-changer is head-tracking. If people are looking for an affordable alternative to Track-IR or Tobii, I'm always glad to direct business to the good people of 'Delan Headtracker/Clip' here:
https://delanengineering.com/
It's an awesome piece of kit that adds a new level to the experience and transforms the way that you drive in ATS or ETS2. Does exactly the same thing as Track IR with the exact same effectiveness for a fraction of the cost. Don't use the provided or suggested drivers though as setting that up is a frigging nightmare. Get the open-source 'Opentrack' driver instead and be up and running in mere minutes.
https://github.com/opentrack/opentrack/releases
I honestly recommend Delan Clip. It's one piece of kit that'll pay for itself inside three days, pricewise. There's more expensive entertainment that lasts shorter, relatively spoken.

[diji]

Thanks for the responses. Bit of a mix of opinions here so I might wait for the next time I spot a deep discount on the Euro version and try it with a controller.

[pieperjohanns]

Originally posted by diji:

whether you can enjoy these games without going all out sim and setting up a wheel, trackIR/VR, etc.

Yes.

[BigT57]

I will throw in a dissenting opinion. I hated using a 360 xbox controller and always play with a keyboard and mouse. The default settings for using a mouse are lousy though. Download the demo and find out for yourself.

[bukkie661]

Originally posted by BigT57:

I will throw in a dissenting opinion. I hated using a 360 xbox controller and always play with a keyboard and mouse. The default settings for using a mouse are lousy though. Download the demo and find out for yourself.

Are you talking about the 'mouse-steer' mode? I never tried it as I have a wheel-setup but I've always wondered how well that would work.

[diji]

Originally posted by BigT57:

I will throw in a dissenting opinion. I hated using a 360 xbox controller and always play with a keyboard and mouse. The default settings for using a mouse are lousy though. Download the demo and find out for yourself.

Wow, didn't even realise there was a demo lol. Thanks for pointing that out. :)

[Nats]

I use a wheel/pedals with a keyboard/mouse and it works well. I reckon you could use a controller ok with this game but its not going to be quite as immersive as with wheel and pedals. I got a second hand Logitech GT wheel and it works really well but no obvious force feedback. But it works even better in Project Cars 2. PC2 is an amazing game with a wheel!