tobii eye tracking not working

[J.E.N.26]

some one know why the eye traking is not working on the american game menu?

[Reese]

On the menu? Not supported. Tracking only available during gameplay.

If you mean it isn't recognising the Tobii Tracker in the menu(can't select it, adjust settings for it, etc), then you didn't have the Tobii softwares started before starting the game. Tobii is not hot-pluggable in ATS.

[Northwind65]

Check the Tobi Game Hub, to see if you have any update news left - My eyetracking 5c works on both ATS and ETS2 without any problems.

[MacCekko]

I hope I am not intruding, but I have a question regarding TOBII...
I'd like to understand if is it possible to setup the whole TOBII thing so that it trackks ONLY your face and not your eyes. I am asking since I wear progressive lenses every moment of my day (and night: I take off my glasses only when I sleep). I am using TrackIR and am very satisfied, but sometimes it would be nicer to not have to wear a hat. Hence my question. I am asking here since I cannot find any suitable answer over the internet. In brief, can I setup TOBII so that it tracks 0% my eyes and 100% my head/face instead?
Thank you.

[Reese]

Originally posted by MacCekko:

I'd like to understand if is it possible to setup the whole TOBII thing so that it trackks ONLY your face and not your eyes. ..... In brief, can I setup TOBII so that it tracks 0% my eyes and 100% my head/face instead?
Thank you.

Good question. While I don't have the same eyesight issue, I was happy to see that ETS2/ATS support using the Tobii tracker in only headtracking mode. There is a specific select-able menu option called "Headtracking only" that does exactly what you're asking.

Now this is game-specific. Other games may not have this option. For ATS, I often watch YouTube or screen-shared discord group chats so constantly having the camera move because my eyes move is disorienting, so I use headtracking only instead.


Also yeah, I got tired of having something mounted to my head for years for tracking. Tobii does both at the same time, and will happily just use the data from headtracking.

[MacCekko]

Originally posted by Reese:

Good question. While I don't have the same eyesight issue, I was happy to see that ETS2/ATS support using the Tobii tracker in only headtracking mode. There is a specific select-able menu option called "Headtracking only" that does exactly what you're asking.

Now this is game-specific. Other games may not have this option. For ATS, I often watch YouTube or screen-shared discord group chats so constantly having the camera move because my eyes move is disorienting, so I use headtracking only instead.


Also yeah, I got tired of having something mounted to my head for years for tracking. Tobii does both at the same time, and will happily just use the data from headtracking.

Ah, but knowing that ATS and ETS2 track ONLY the face/head is nice nonetheless since I use both a lot! But I'd like to know more from actual TOBII users/owners, since I am using TrackIR also for MSFS (MS Flight Simulator). I might buy the whole thing anyway, but it would be quite disappointing to later understand that for me it's going to be a waste of money.
In any case, thank you for your interesting and helpful answer. :)

[Reese]

Well yeah as an actual Tobii owner, all I said still stands. It's plugged in and staring me down right now. I chose Tobii specifically because of the constantly-on-my-head requirement of other solutions. I have some speakers that are great for ATS for all the noises the trucks make and having something on my head hurts that experience.

[If you meant more owners than just me, I apologise, I'm reading it as if you thought I didn't have a Tobii Eye Tracker.]

[Alabama]

Good Morning all.
I have a Tobii 5,I can not get it to only track head movment.
I have turned off all eye tracking, but then the head tracking will not work.
Is ther something else i have to do.
Cheers.

[Wolfpig]

Originally posted by MacCekko:

Ah, but knowing that ATS and ETS2 track ONLY the face/head is nice nonetheless since I use both a lot!

That is not correct.
The games have eye tracking too...but i would always recommend to deactivate that and only use the head tracking.
Reason.
If you, for example, look down onto your dashboard or to the sides on some of the available displays it will move the view to that point....even if you do not want/need that.

[Duurti]

Originally posted by Reese:

On the menu? Not supported. Tracking only available during gameplay.

If you mean it isn't recognising the Tobii Tracker in the menu(can't select it, adjust settings for it, etc), then you didn't have the Tobii softwares started before starting the game. Tobii is not hot-pluggable in ATS.

For what it's worth, I recently got the Tobii Eye Tracker 5 system and was running the software etc when I start ATS and it didn't pick it up. Had no option in menu to turn it on. I had to edit the config file, Track IR was active (which I've never owned) so I had to set it to 0 and Tobii to 1 and it than worked just fine.


Edit: now that I think about it, I did try just using the free opentrack for a while (and that one that used to be free on Steam, forget the name) but it was too inconsistent. That is likely why trackIR was active when I first tried to use Tobii.

[Duurti]

Originally posted by Alabama:

Good Morning all.
I have a Tobii 5,I can not get it to only track head movment.
I have turned off all eye tracking, but then the head tracking will not work.
Is ther something else i have to do.
Cheers.

Turn it all back on in the Tobii software.

In ATS go to your settings, options, controls, eye tracking.

Under there is a category called "Gaze tracking" Set all those to 0 to turn off eye tracking only in game.

[Duurti]

Originally posted by MacCekko:

I hope I am not intruding, but I have a question regarding TOBII...
I'd like to understand if is it possible to setup the whole TOBII thing so that it trackks ONLY your face and not your eyes. I am asking since I wear progressive lenses every moment of my day (and night: I take off my glasses only when I sleep). I am using TrackIR and am very satisfied, but sometimes it would be nicer to not have to wear a hat. Hence my question. I am asking here since I cannot find any suitable answer over the internet. In brief, can I setup TOBII so that it tracks 0% my eyes and 100% my head/face instead?
Thank you.

Most games that support Tobii will allow you to choose head tracking or eye tracking or both in their settings. I also play MSFS 2024 as well as many other sim games where head tracking is useful and all that I play allow me to set which I prefer, both or just one or the other. I haven't touched the settings in the Tobii software since I bought it. It'll all be in the game settings for head/eye tracking.

[MacCekko]

First thing first, thank you all for you kind and detailed answers. Now, let me see if I have understood correctly what you all have said. Basically, Tobii ET works tracking BOTH face//head AND eyes. One cannot have it working using only one of the two tracking features. These two features are somehow connected, so to speak, so that one doesn't work without the other. Correct? Even if within its own software one said feature is setup (excuse the lack of terms, I as said, haven't got it) to work and the other not, the whole system would then not work correctly. On the other hand, this could be achieved within SOFTWARE (like GAMES) which consider the use of Tobii in the first place. Such as truck simulators from SCS (ATS and ETS2), and mainly MS Flight Simulator, where one might decide to suppress the eye movement tracking in favor of the head/face movement tracking instead. At the moment i might not be interested in other games/software other than these three, as I own them all (I also pre-purchased MSFS 2024 but it continues to CTD since day one, so no go, for now; I have honestly never been able to even see what it does look like, and I tend to regret my trust in MS, which will possibly never happen again in the future, having bought no-less than the most expensive Aviator Edition for the price of some 220 euros, but this is completely another story, totally OT here).
Having said that, I think - since the way TOBII works is set within each game/sim (anyway intended as 'software') - I might very well choose to buy it, as soon as it gets available again on Amazon Italy. Or, if not, directly from TOBII web portal.
Again, you have been very kind and helpful so thank you so much.
Cheers to all. Ciao! :)

[Reese]

ATS by default assumes you want both head-tracking and eye tracking. But you can select just head-tracking if you want with Tobii using the in-game settings. I'm not sure if you can use Eye tracking without the head-tracking though, for ATS, haven't tried that combo. ATS just has a specific option to disable the eye tracking entirely in favour of just the head-tracking that Tobii provides. You can select a preset in-game or make your own by adjusting the 30+ sliders.

Some screenshots:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3376184275
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3376184311
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3376184409
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3376184447
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3376184502
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3376184521
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3376184551

[Duurti]

Originally posted by MacCekko:

First thing first, thank you all for you kind and detailed answers. Now, let me see if I have understood correctly what you all have said. Basically, Tobii ET works tracking BOTH face//head AND eyes. One cannot have it working using only one of the two tracking features. These two features are somehow connected, so to speak, so that one doesn't work without the other. Correct? Even if within its own software one said feature is setup (excuse the lack of terms, I as said, haven't got it) to work and the other not, the whole system would then not work correctly. On the other hand, this could be achieved within SOFTWARE (like GAMES) which consider the use of Tobii in the first place. Such as truck simulators from SCS (ATS and ETS2), and mainly MS Flight Simulator, where one might decide to suppress the eye movement tracking in favor of the head/face movement tracking instead.

Sort of. There is no real changes to be made in the Tobii software once you calibrate it. It IS going to use eye tracking for that calibration, no way around this. But once complete it's done and you really don't have to do anything other than start it if you're using it, close the program if you're not. There are a few little red (infrared) lights that are visible so i close the software when I'm not using it and these lights go out.

As far as games go, MSFS, ATS, ETS, Farmsim 25 etc, you use the game settings to chose eye or head or both.

And for what it's worth, I had issues on day one of MSFS 2024 launch, but it's been solid since, so take from that what you will.

[Alabama]

Thank you for the help guy's i have now got that sorted out.