American Truck Simulator

American Truck Simulator

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AVGVSTVS Nov 23, 2023 @ 4:55am
Constant gear grinding
V 1.49, happening in all trucks during quick jobs with no damage and automatic transmission, just 5% permanent wear. It's really been quite annoying. An automatic transmission shouldn't be yielding this many grinding sounds in good condition.
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TW Nov 23, 2023 @ 6:04am 
I have never heard of an automatic grinding gears. Be kinda hard to do sense the automatic has clutch disks instead of gears. They don't grind......
MotherTrucker-UK Nov 24, 2023 @ 4:51pm 
im hearing it as well :steamfacepalm:
regional Nov 24, 2023 @ 6:00pm 
yep ive also noticed that used trucks cant be fixed 100%
TB-Death2-U Nov 24, 2023 @ 6:09pm 
Only allison transmissions are true automatics with torque converters.
Everything else is an automated manual with a clutch and gears, servos just operate the clutch and shifter.
So yes you can have gear grinding.
bigenglish55 Nov 24, 2023 @ 6:52pm 
Originally posted by TW:
I have never heard of an automatic grinding gears. Be kinda hard to do sense the automatic has clutch disks instead of gears. They don't grind......
yes they do, i have had autos grind/miss gears fail to find a gear for 5 seconds or more..
source i drive them irl
Last edited by bigenglish55; Nov 24, 2023 @ 6:53pm
tesTTrucker Nov 25, 2023 @ 5:27am 
Originally posted by TB-Death2-U:
Only allison transmissions are true automatics with torque converters.
Everything else is an automated manual with a clutch and gears, servos just operate the clutch and shifter.
So yes you can have gear grinding.
What about volvo's I shift?
hackintoshchap Nov 25, 2023 @ 5:34am 
I have been experiencing this gear grinding when driving trucks for quick jobs. I think that some further revisions of this feature may be necessary by SCS to make this new damage system work better.
MotherTrucker-UK Nov 25, 2023 @ 6:07am 
amen to that
GHKtruc Nov 25, 2023 @ 6:20am 
It's caused by permanent wear. Grinding noises tell you it will require an overhaul soon
hackintoshchap Nov 25, 2023 @ 6:48am 
Originally posted by GHKtruc:
It's caused by permanent wear. Grinding noises tell you it will require an overhaul soon

Yeah, but automatic transmissions have a series of clutch plates that are bathed in transmission fluid.

There are no gears to grind. It is going to be difficult to show permanent wear outside of a simple noise or noises that users can identify as a vehicle needing major work.

There is more to the existing new truck wear system than just a transmission. he bigger problem is finding the fine line between what grown ups with mechanical understanding expect with what teenagers and small children may also expect to identify as excessive wear.

At present the existing grinding sound only grinds my gears, that is to say, I don;t appreciate it at all and I don't like it.Its just a far to simple and somewhat incorrect noise that only indicates a single issue.

SCS needed to start with *something* simple to alert players to potential issues. How might developers be able to alert non technical players that there are potential issues with certain components of a truck?

TLDR:

All that is being discussed is that the grinding gears sound is not really ideal, but there is no one size fits all fix to this issue either. Many issues wouldn't trigger a dash light which many users may fail to observe.
GHKtruc Nov 25, 2023 @ 6:58am 
How would a faulty transmission manifest in a modern truck ? Error message ?
We would need to have a better working onboard computer. For a while, low fuel on the International would show a permanent warning, preventing you from cycling your dash, so you couldn't see your remaining range when on reserve fuel *-*
TB-Death2-U Nov 25, 2023 @ 7:06am 
Originally posted by tesTTrucker:
Originally posted by TB-Death2-U:
Only allison transmissions are true automatics with torque converters.
Everything else is an automated manual with a clutch and gears, servos just operate the clutch and shifter.
So yes you can have gear grinding.
What about volvo's I shift?

I have not tried that one.
If it shifts like a car it's a true automatic if not then it's an automated manual.
hackintoshchap Nov 25, 2023 @ 7:09am 
For the transmission issue, it would show up as the truck not moving up or down all gears, it may not use certain gears or it may start to slip. I reckon that many players may initially blame this on their hardware not working properly or even the game being buggy.

Other issues such as worn or leaking airbags, broken or soft springs, an annoying exhaust leak, brake or steering issues and so on would be difficult to put into the game as many users, even many who do drive cars are probably going to struggle with the idea with what may or may not be faulty or needing replaced.
jeremyj621 Nov 25, 2023 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by regional:
yep ive also noticed that used trucks cant be fixed 100%
There is an option to do a total restoration on used trucks, repairing all permanent damage. If you're driving the truck and in a service station, on the top left corner of the screen is a button labeled "request total restoration." In the Truck Manager screen, with the used truck selected, on the top left of the screen is a row of buttons. One of the them (the last one) is labeled "total restore." Click on one of those buttons to do a total restoration. Note: a total restoration costs more than a new truck, so I only do that with trucks that can't be bought new.
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Date Posted: Nov 23, 2023 @ 4:55am
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