Hidden roads needed for 100% discovery?

[mitchunworthy]

Do we have to discover all the hidden roads (the dash-line roads that you stumble upon on accident) to get 100%? Now that we can see by state, I'm at 99.99% in California... and have looked for (literally) 3 hours for the missing gray road... can't find it. 99.96% in Arizona... can't find it (there were two intersections just south of the St. George garage that were gray, but driving over them didn't raise my percentage). Spent about an hour looking in Arizona... nothing.

[Ryu]

The hidden roads do not count.

[mitchunworthy]

Well, crap. No idea what I'm missing, then. Thanks for the reply!

[mojo_musica]

Originally posted by mitchunworthy:

Well, crap. No idea what I'm missing, then. Thanks for the reply!

Try one of the mods in the Workshop for revealing undriven roads, they are generally safe to use. Look at the recent threads about 100% roads, @The Pitts is the poster to look for, as he has the most detailed information about the subject. Some places need to be teleported to to get them, not driven, and you don't actually have to get 100%, a tiny fraction less will still award 100% completion.

[mitchunworthy]

Originally posted by mojo_musica:

Originally posted by mitchunworthy:

Well, crap. No idea what I'm missing, then. Thanks for the reply!

Try one of the mods in the Workshop for revealing undriven roads, they are generally safe to use. Look at the recent threads about 100% roads, @The Pitts is the poster to look for, as he has the most detailed information about the subject. Some places need to be teleported to to get them, not driven, and you don't actually have to get 100%, a tiny fraction less will still award 100% completion.

Thanks. Pitts has said that he doesn't teleport and still has 100% in all states, so I don't think I need to worry about that. Just endlessly scrolling through the maps,,, I haven't done much in Montana, Texas or Oklahoma. But I would have thought I had 100 on most of the others... but I'm 99.9% or better in Cali, Oregon, Washington, Utah, and Arizona (got the 100% in Nevada), all states that aren't connected to any of the ones I haven't really started hitting yet, and I'm not seeing any roads... just little pull-offs or tiny sections of depots. Nothing that would get me .01% or greater. Just frustrating, but I'll keep looking.

[Catratio]

I can confirm you can get 100% in California and Arizona without teleporting. One trick you might try is disable all map icons. The recruiting agency footprint is small enough that sometimes the icon completely covers the plot of land, hiding that it is grey.

I sympathize though, I am in the same boat with Utah. 99.99% and I've spent over an hour trying to figure out what I'm missing and just can't see it.

[mitchunworthy]

Originally posted by Catratio:

I can confirm you can get 100% in California and Arizona without teleporting. One trick you might try is disable all map icons. The recruiting agency footprint is small enough that sometimes the icon completely covers the plot of land, hiding that it is grey.

I sympathize though, I am in the same boat with Utah. 99.99% and I've spent over an hour trying to figure out what I'm missing and just can't see it.

Yeah, the recruiting thing has bit me before.. I went so far as to go turn on the icons and go to each recruiting agency in California, then remove them... that's not the answer. I'm really starting to wonder if it's already yellow/explored on my map, but because of the recent updates, something has been tweaked but it didn't show up as gray... I have literally looked at every section of road three times, lol. I've had trouble before (in ETS, too) but I usually find it within a half hour or so.. I'm coming up on 4 hours now just in California. Oh well.

[The Pitts]

Originally posted by mitchunworthy:

I'm not seeing any roads... just little pull-offs or tiny sections of depots

They all count so you need to visit those too (actually they don't necessarily count but you have no way of knowing so your only approach is to turn everything on the map yellow). In your position all I can suggest is turning off all icons on the map (click on the legend icon bottom left, click Select All twice and then click on the legend icon again) and then quartering the state - perhaps first at the second zoom level where things like missing depots, agencies, gas stations etc. should still be visible, and then at the final zoom level.

FWIW unless you are grey/yellow colour blind an undiscovered road mod likely isn't going to help much as all they do is mess with the colours and if you are red/green colour blind may make the situation worse.

Also note that there are a small number of undiscoverable pieces scattered about - the entrance to Plaster & Sons in Truckee, CA and a section of grass N of a gas station off I40 W of Albuquerque, NM spring to mind - but none of those on their own will prevent you getting to the 99.995% that you need for the game to see 100%

Originally posted by mitchunworthy:

he doesn't teleport and still has 100% in all states

Just for the record I got to 100% overall before installing OK with Texas stuck at 99.99% and whilst I do not teleport I am not beyond a little judicious manoeuvring (like a bit of offroad across the grass, or butting up to the barriers from various angles) to try and get a piece to turn grey. Post-OK I have everything back to 100% other than OK itself and Texas which is stuck at 99.98 but I still have two small items left to visit.

[mitchunworthy]

Originally posted by The Pitts:

They all count so you need to visit those too (actually they don't necessarily count but you have no way of knowing so your only approach is to turn everything on the map yellow). In your position all I can suggest is turning off all icons on the map (click on the legend icon bottom left, click Select All twice and then click on the legend icon again) and then quartering the state - perhaps first at the second zoom level where things like missing depots, agencies, gas stations etc. should still be visible, and then at the final zoom level.

Yeah, I still get them, I just figure with the percentage I'm lacking, there's got to be at least one stretch of road I'm missing. Your approach is basically all I've been doing.. for about 4-5 hours yesterday. Gonna take another go at it this morning with fresh eyes.

I don't use the mods anymore now that there's a way to do the same thing included in the game. I can see the gray against the yellow just as easily as I could see the red against the gray.

And yeah, I spent about 20 minutes trying to get that entrance in Truckee yesterday-- was happy when I found your earlier post mentioning that you can't get it.

Thanks for the reply. I'll just keep plugging away at it. I'm at 2% in Montana and less than 50 in both Texas and Oklahoma, so there's plenty of easy map left to get before I get 100 overall. I'll take a break from searching for tiny pieces of gray if I need to.

[Madkine]

Originally posted by mitchunworthy:

Yeah, I still get them, I just figure with the percentage I'm lacking, there's got to be at least one stretch of road I'm missing.

More likely multiple little pieces than a stretch of road.

[The Pitts]

Agreed, a piece of road of any size is going to show up even on zoom level 2 but given the approach that mitchunworthy has already taken I'd say that one single long stretch large enough to roll over the 99.995% is unlikely. Of course we have no way of knowing what the underlying percentage is for each individual state, only for the map as a whole, so knowing how much you are missing is impossible without crunching the underlying data (and even then, there are enough anomalies in that data to make being certain an unlikely proposition, eg. I see 286 map items with conflicting country ids in their node data, so they might belong to one of the two states or both, who knows).

[mitchunworthy]

I eventually found the missing piece and brought California up to 100%, Even being at 99.99%, I didn't realize what I was looking for would be so damn tiny... it was a tiny, tiny sliver of gray on 580 WB just south of the Chems depot, north of San Fran and west of Stockton. I scrolled past that same area probably five times before I found it. It was so tiny that I dang near missed it as I was actually driving to it. It did not, in fact, show up at level 2 zoom, only at level 1 and even then, like I said, missed it a few times before finding it. I must have been at like 99.99449 and that took me to 99.995. In Arizona, I found a similiar-sized piece near Tucson, it got me from 99.96 to 99.97... then a piece big enough to see on zoom 2 (just barely) near Sierra Vista, and it counted the same, took me up .01 to 99.98. I guess I was just looking for bigger pieces than those. Once I realized how small the pieces were I needed to find, I started looking differently.

Thanks everyone for your help. Just gonna have to grind it out. At least none of the states are as big as California, at least until I try to tackle Texas, so the tiny pieces will hopefully count more.