18 Speed Range Toggle.

[Delta Dart]

I just picked up a G27 setup and loving it so far. However, there's 1 thing I'd like to do that I can't figure out or find a solution to. I'D prefer not to use the range-splitter option with the 18 speed transmission.

I've tried the 6-speed and 10-speeds and like the way they shift, but want more flexibility in selectable gears. Ultimately, I'd like to use the 0 button on the shifter unit for low range (gears 1-6), 1 button for mid range (gears 7-12), and 2 button for high range (gears 13-18).

What I've found when searching for info on doing this has largely been variants of the range-splitter concept.

Is there a way of setting up a 3 range set up?

[Rookie-31st]

You don't have 3 ranges with 18-speed. You have 2 ranges and splitter (H/L)

[Thogmar]

Originally posted by mydartswinger:

I just picked up a G27 setup and loving it so far. However, there's 1 thing I'd like to do that I can't figure out or find a solution to. I'D prefer not to use the range-splitter option with the 18 speed transmission.

I've tried the 6-speed and 10-speeds and like the way they shift, but want more flexibility in selectable gears. Ultimately, I'd like to use the 0 button on the shifter unit for low range (gears 1-6), 1 button for mid range (gears 7-12), and 2 button for high range (gears 13-18).

What I've found when searching for info on doing this has largely been variants of the range-splitter concept.

Is there a way of setting up a 3 range set up?

You'd have to build your own fantasy transmission files, since that sequence doesn't make any sense in the real world of metal gears and syncros.

A real truck transmission is using six shift positions, one or two ranges, and a gear "splitter" to increase the number of options. This is easily handled by the physical elements involved, including the six position shifter of your G27 in the sim world.

Your concept would require either the range or the splitter mechanisms to select from THREE positions rather than TWO, which would be unecessarily complex.

I would suggest that you look for one of the 12 speed mods (or build your own) in order to have a simplified "two ranges only" shift pattern, or simply select one of the 10 speeds in the game or mods to have a two range only shift choice.

18 speed transmissions simply aren't designed to do what you want to do. Learn the range/split shift patterns if you want to play with those big boys, it's fun and not super difficult with a few hours of practice.

[Lombra]

Should be able to set up a triple range using a custom gearbox profile.

This video explains the whole thing in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GMwMif-maQ
Should also apply to ATS.

[Fury6]

Originally posted by mydartswinger:

[...]I'D prefer not to use the range-splitter option with the 18 speed transmission.[...]

Then unfortunately for you, you're SOoL.

Originally posted by mydartswinger:

[...] the 0 button on the shifter unit for low range (gears 1-6), 1 button for mid range (gears 7-12), and 2 button for high range (gears 13-18).[...]

[...]Is there a way of setting up a 3 range set up?

Can't be done. The game supports two bi-stable select switches. The game is very flexible in how it lets you use them, but it's intended scope is limited to the modern air-assist shifted range+splitter type transmissions... therefore two select switches only.

They can individually be used as true toggles (for triggering with toggle switches on controllers or button-boxes) or as single button toggles as per the default configuration (momentary action push-on/push-off for keyboard keys or controller buttons).

To understand the game's input and layout configuration:
http://www.eurotrucksimulator2.com/input_config.php#components

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Also, if you search the SCS website you'll find a shifter layout builder tool, which allows you to visually setup a custom shifter layout.

[gekco]

I have a G27 with the range set up, the way the game has it set default you need to switch the toggle buttons.

Gears 1-6 to 7-12 (button 0)
Gears 7-12 to 13-18 (button 1)

Realistically you will have 2 toggles on 18 speed as well. One black switch on the front and a red switch on the side of the shifter.

[Rookie-31st]

With such ranges, you make 18-speed automatic with manual shifts.

[Jackrabbit_V6/ RSProduxx]

tbh you might not find it to be as useful as you might think right now... usually you (or an automatic) would "jump" over alot of gears anyway,in both directions..it´s not that you just go through 1-6,then the next 6 an then the next... thats why an 18 speed transmission isnt build like that to begin with

it´s not really 18 full, but alot of "sub" gears, so you can, if needed, rather than shifting a full, shift a half gear up or down...it´s not easy for me to explain,but generally it makes more sense having your "core gear range", and "splitting" them up into lower- and higher "half gears" rather than going 1-18 in one long sequence...

an example would be to have 2-4-6-8-10-12 as main gears 1-6, then you would have 1-3-4-7-9-11 as lower half gears (0.5-1.5-2.5 you get the idea) and then the higher half gears ...

normally you won´t need more than the 1st 6 gears in that case,but sometimes it might be useful to have the "middle gears" for optimizing your rpm...

it´s just an example, so the actual gears might not be 100% accurate,but the concept should be clear

in short: you don´t have an 18 gear, but rather a 6 gear with 1 lower and one higher half gear each, at least that would be optimal :)

[Sephrax]

Squirrel managed to get 24. Since he used 10 speed until he switched to W900 and got 18 speed with it. At that point he didn't know how to do 18 with his setup but then he did something and managed to get 18 + 6 extra gears.

From 15:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNlhjM421G0

[Rookie-31st]

Yeah, you can notice that 18-speed auto jumps gears. 18-speed manual does not have 18 gears - it has 18 transmission ratios including reverse (both low and high). 18-speed auto emulates each as separate gear so it usually jumps at least one which is same as skipping splitting a gear into L and H, and afaik it is normal for 18-speed manual unless you haul very heavy cargo or go uphill. In most situations you would use just 8-10 transmission ratios.

[Delta Dart]

Thanks to ya'll's urging, I went ahead and gave it a go with the range-splitter. I guess I was just a bit intimidated by it for some reason. Now that I've used it, I find it fairly easy (still having a bit of trouble going for the buttons, but that'll come with practice), and I find myself mainly using even gears on the W900 and odd on the Pete (haven't given the T680 a go with it yet, but will probably go with odd since it has the same engine as the Pete). I pretty much only use the other gears when under load and need a bit of help accelerating.

Thank you

[Fury6]

Originally posted by Sephrax:

Squirrel managed to get 24. Since he used 10 speed until he switched to W900 and got 18 speed with it. At that point he didn't know how to do 18 with his setup but then he did something and managed to get 18 + 6 extra gears.

From 15:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNlhjM421G0

Umm... you can configure up to 64 gears total, actually.
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Originally posted by mydartswinger:

[...]probably go with odd since it has the same engine as the Pete). I pretty much only use the other gears when under load and need a bit of help accelerating.

Thank you

Most of the time you only ever really need to use the 18 like a 13 speed - make full shifts in low-range and split shifts in high-range. You might get a little bit of a fuel efficiency advantage maybe if you split and short shift in low range when running loaded. Even with the 90 ton trafo mod I don't often bother splitting the low-range on level roads - though that will depend on your engine as well of course, splitting low-range will make things easier for the smaller engines.

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Originally posted by rookie31st:

[...]it has 18 transmission ratios including reverse (both low and high).

Nope.

Reverse gears aren't counted, only forward gears. Mack Maxi-Torque has three reverse speeds, E-F Super 18 has four.

In a modern 18 speed box there are FIVE speeds (a crawler gear + four forwards) in the low-range set plus four in the high-range, all of which are split = 18 speeds.

[Rookie-31st]

Fury6, you're right. Low gear is counted, not reverse.