Question about double trailers

[Salem Graves]

1. Do they pay more than singles
2. Will I ever be asked to back them, or is it always a pull forward?

[TwinShadow]

1. Pays the same really, maybe marginally more with rocky mountain or turnpike doubles, or triple, but it's not much more. Just a little extra challenge to drive them and corner really.

2. No. By default, the game will black out the option for the skilled parking, while leaving the option to do simple parking (pulling forward mostly). While you can unlock the ability to back them, it is very difficult to do so which is why SCS grayed the option out.

[Salem Graves]

Originally posted by TwinShadow:

1. Pays the same really, maybe marginally more with rocky mountain or turnpike doubles, or triple, but it's not much more. Just a little extra challenge to drive them and corner really.

2. No. By default, the game will black out the option for the skilled parking, while leaving the option to do simple parking (pulling forward mostly). While you can unlock the ability to back them, it is very difficult to do so which is why SCS grayed the option out.

Thanks for the answers, shame about the backing. There's a double fuel tanker that doesn't have the little dolly in between so I think it would actually be manageable and fun to try and back them. Backing is a lot of the fun of this game for me, so I guess I'm sticking to my singles!

[MagnusA]

Originally posted by Unremarkable:

Originally posted by TwinShadow:

1. Pays the same really, maybe marginally more with rocky mountain or turnpike doubles, or triple, but it's not much more. Just a little extra challenge to drive them and corner really.

2. No. By default, the game will black out the option for the skilled parking, while leaving the option to do simple parking (pulling forward mostly). While you can unlock the ability to back them, it is very difficult to do so which is why SCS grayed the option out.

Thanks for the answers, shame about the backing. There's a double fuel tanker that doesn't have the little dolly in between so I think it would actually be manageable and fun to try and back them. Backing is a lot of the fun of this game for me, so I guess I'm sticking to my singles!

You can do the "difficult oarking" with doubles/triples or any articulated trailer by changing a variable in the config file. Forgot exactly which one but it is a very simple change.

[MirkoC407]

There are some truck stops with parking to the outside. At least you can make a test there before actually editing config files.

[Turtle411]

Originally posted by Unremarkable:

Originally posted by TwinShadow:

1. Pays the same really, maybe marginally more with rocky mountain or turnpike doubles, or triple, but it's not much more. Just a little extra challenge to drive them and corner really.

2. No. By default, the game will black out the option for the skilled parking, while leaving the option to do simple parking (pulling forward mostly). While you can unlock the ability to back them, it is very difficult to do so which is why SCS grayed the option out.

Thanks for the answers, shame about the backing. There's a double fuel tanker that doesn't have the little dolly in between so I think it would actually be manageable and fun to try and back them. Backing is a lot of the fun of this game for me, so I guess I'm sticking to my singles!

If the trailers are hooked together by a turn table, chassis to chassis. Then yes it is more than possible, I did it today at work. Dolly is quite different and much more difficult (irl and ats) There is an australian "B-double" mod you can download. Have a look in trailer downloads in the workshop and search keywords "Krueger" or "Freighter" i'm confident you'll come up with something. You can also back these, and you'd be surprised, they reverse just like and actual b-double combo. Mods are really well done, I haven't had any drama with either Mod at all.

[Salem Graves]

Originally posted by turtleboy411:

Originally posted by Unremarkable:

Thanks for the answers, shame about the backing. There's a double fuel tanker that doesn't have the little dolly in between so I think it would actually be manageable and fun to try and back them. Backing is a lot of the fun of this game for me, so I guess I'm sticking to my singles!

If the trailers are hooked together by a turn table, chassis to chassis. Then yes it is more than possible, I did it today at work. Dolly is quite different and much more difficult (irl and ats) There is an australian "B-double" mod you can download. Have a look in trailer downloads in the workshop and search keywords "Krueger" or "Freighter" i'm confident you'll come up with something. You can also back these, and you'd be surprised, they reverse just like and actual b-double combo. Mods are really well done, I haven't had any drama with either Mod at all.

Yeah the B-double is one of the options for the fuel tanker. Main reason I considered to buy a double. Do you know if changing the config will apply to convoy mode too?

[TW]

Why would anyone want to buy a double trailer set up. In real life you would have to drop one off at a place and take the other to another place and then drive back to the first place to pick up the trailer you dropped off and then maybe drive to the other place to pick up the second trailer. What if you dropped the first trailer off and then had to drive a 100 miles to the next drop off. Then you nee to pick them up that would be 400 miles round trip tending to your doubles.. Doubles are best left to the company that has the loads to haul..

[_KC76_]

Originally posted by TW:

Why would anyone want to buy a double trailer set up. In real life you would have to drop one off at a place and take the other to another place and then drive back to the first place to pick up the trailer you dropped off and then maybe drive to the other place to pick up the second trailer. What if you dropped the first trailer off and then had to drive a 100 miles to the next drop off. Then you nee to pick them up that would be 400 miles round trip tending to your doubles.. Doubles are best left to the company that has the loads to haul..

Thats not how doubles work in the game, or IRL .. It is impossible to "split" the doubles/triples in the game, and IRL, it is extremely rare to split doubles/triples "en-route".
-The exception to this that I have seen is when two or three sets "meet" at a turnpike interchange and swap one of the trailers with another driver.
--In all my years I have never seen, or been asked, to take pup1 to location A and then take pup2 to location B, then go back and pickup pup1 after pup2 is unloaded.

It is actually pretty common for owner-operators in California to own their own doubles, but this is mostly specialty freight, like Aggregate (sand/stone/asphalt) or Dry-Bulk/Tanker (Grain/flour/sugar/cement) (gasoline/food grade/chemicals) .. It has to do with California's laws, and the geographic restrictions. These owner-operators are not splitting their doubles at different locations, they are hauling large quantity light loads to/from one place.
-With California's wheel-base laws, you can not pull a long tank or dry-bulk, or dump trailer, so must use multiple short pups .. with a 53 foot van/reefer/flatbed, you MUST move the axles all the way forward in California, which you can not do with fixed-axle trailers.

[TwinShadow]

Originally posted by MagnusA:

You can do the "difficult oarking" with doubles/triples or any articulated trailer by changing a variable in the config file. Forgot exactly which one but it is a very simple change.

I took a quick look in the config.cfg for the profile folder and it appears to be these lines:

uset g_parking_difficulty "2"
uset g_simple_parking_doubles "1"

People can change the one for the doubles at their own risk. B-doubles are easier to back because there's no dolly in between the trailers, but the US largely does not run them and most all combinations have a dolly in between.

The only companies I see running doubles (and even then, Texas only allows STAA, or double pups, because that's at the Federal level, but no other combination is allowed) are ones like UPS, FedEx, Yellow, ABF, and the like. I imagine they do a lot of splitting of trailers depending on where the route takes them. I've even seen FedEx and UPS hauling one of the pup trailers and a dolly on its own once in a while.

[_KC76_]

Originally posted by TwinShadow:

I've even seen FedEx and UPS hauling one of the pup trailers and a dolly on its own once in a while.

Fed-ex and UPS Semi-drivers are Drop n Hook (they do not sit and wait for their trailer to be unloaded/reloaded). They have 3 types of Semi-truck service:
-Business drop-n-hook (one trailer, drop mt pickup loaded, full load),
-Depot drop-n-hook (1, 2, or 3 trailers, full load, drop loads, pull loads),
-Business/Home Delivery (one trailer, less than load, route delivery, route pickup)

Sometimes, you will see a Depot drop/hook take one pup to a Rail yard for loading on a train, and the second trailer to a Ground Depot in the same town. This is probably the case you saw with a pup pulling a dolly, as UPS does not like to leave their Dolly gear just sitting around someone else's rail yard, so the driver drops the trailer, and takes dolly on to the Depot where they will drop Dolly and other pup. Depot to Depot drivers do not take one pup to a customer, and then a second on to a second customer, because of their Union Contracts and Customer Facilities no accommodating doubles shuffling.

[Stenleh44]

Yesterday i had to park a Double lowboy...

Did my last job to complete my Texas challenge. Wheel loader Volvo L250H from Taylor Construction in Amarillo Texas to Namiq in Odessa...254 miles. Turns out i didn't get credit as it was my second delivery to the city.

Anyhow....

I get to the location...and the load will not fit through the ramp at the entrance of facility. I am hitting the bar that hangs over the ramp. I am forced to park the low loader double by going around the ramp and reversing into the spot.

Man...parking doubles is hard!!! Took me about 15min or so. Lots of slow little adjustments, but i finally got it.

Cheers!

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