American Truck Simulator

American Truck Simulator

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Logo Nov 8, 2022 @ 6:34am
Tesla Semi
hello everyone.

Since the Tesla Semi is close to release (december 2022), would you like to have it ingame?
i'm so hyped about it and would love to drive one, also willing to pay a fair amount of DLC fee.
only problem i can spot so far, is to add chargers, charging time mechanics and get tesla interested in a cooperation of course.
charging time could be implemented like the time laps screen you get if you load an owned trailer.
Last edited by Logo; Nov 9, 2022 @ 12:02am
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_KC76_ Nov 10, 2022 @ 6:16am 
Originally posted by meatballs_21:
Originally posted by Captain Sugoi:
Can't wait to drive through the middle of nowhere and die on the side of the road because I can't find an EV charger.

The same lack of planning would see you running out of diesel in the middle of nowhere because you can’t find a service station.

Except that even in the middle of nowhere, you can find a place to buy diesel fuel of some sort. You can't just snap your jumper cables on the side of a power pole to charge your truck...
Wolfgang Nov 10, 2022 @ 6:19am 
Originally posted by KingConrail:
Originally posted by meatballs_21:

The same lack of planning would see you running out of diesel in the middle of nowhere because you can’t find a service station.

Except that even in the middle of nowhere, you can find a place to buy diesel fuel of some sort. You can't just snap your jumper cables on the side of a power pole to charge your truck...
I would almost bet that there is some Florida Man story about exactly that.
Logo Nov 10, 2022 @ 6:46am 
Originally posted by KingConrail:
Except that even in the middle of nowhere, you can find a place to buy diesel fuel of some sort. You can't just snap your jumper cables on the side of a power pole to charge your truck...
the charger network is pretty wide. imho, i don't think, this is still such a great problem, that you would run out of energy. it is pretty much the same to find a charger in time than finding a gas station. who would honestly seek for hundred gallons of diesel in the usa in the middle of nowhere, lol. i think, this is pretty unlikely. you could be lucky at a farmers house.
there is not much needed to provide a charger, just enough electricity. it just needs to be done and there has to be enough demand for it.
there was an idea indeed, to be able to charge your car at lamp posts. in inhabited areas that would be a great step.
the greater challenge is the charging time and capacity still.
Last edited by Logo; Nov 10, 2022 @ 6:50am
Logo Nov 10, 2022 @ 7:03am 
imho, concerning the touchiness of the topic for some, up to really abusive reactions.

there is no point in fanatism, neither against or for electric vehicles. you need to give it a fair chance, but also be honest about shortcomings, eveluate real chances of the technology and possible improvements. my thoughts.
meatballs_21 Nov 10, 2022 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by KingConrail:

Except that even in the middle of nowhere, you can find a place to buy diesel fuel of some sort. You can't just snap your jumper cables on the side of a power pole to charge your truck...

Yes, but it might be a long trek to find that place in “the middle of nowhere”. You still need to be taking into account running out of juice (be it diesel or electricity) and planning to stop and top up before an extended drive through “the middle of nowhere”.

I don’t see how being stupid enough to let yourself get stranded is somehow only applicable to electric vehicles, it’s going to be a big hassle no matter what, but that’s not the fault of anything except what’s between the steering wheel and the seat.

Oh, and here’s another question: why are you operating your electric semi on a route away from a network of chargers? You wouldn’t do that in the first place.
Last edited by meatballs_21; Nov 10, 2022 @ 7:23am
Sandhill Nov 10, 2022 @ 7:29am 
Initially at least 100% of electric trucks will return to their terminal every day, and be freshly charged when put into service the next day, rinse and repeat. Discussion of lack of charging stations is fantasy.
Qrazy Nov 10, 2022 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by Sandhill:
Initially at least 100% of electric trucks will return to their terminal every day, and be freshly charged when put into service the next day, rinse and repeat. Discussion of lack of charging stations is fantasy.
Should be interesting with the amount of slip seating that a lot of LTL companies do now.
FireShorts Nov 10, 2022 @ 8:44am 
Originally posted by Logo:
Originally posted by FireShorts:
If the driving experience would be anywhere near as boring as the car is in real life, I can't imagine why I'd wanna simulate that. Might as well just watch a video of someone else driving the truck for all the input thats required of it.
that's macho nonsense. you don't even try to be open for new developments.
think of it, your old and proven ways there once brand new too and defamed for that reason.

lol I'm 36 so I doubt my "ways" are old or proven. I just think driving an electric truck would be boring because if its anything like the car, theres no real input. No gauge clusters, no feedback from the engine, nothing to monitor. Just turn the truck on, point it in the right direction and keep it on the road. For the record, I am definitely in favor of electric vehicles since fossil fuels are a finite resource and climate change is very much a real thing... I just think it'd be a boring experience to simulate. If I were a truck driver in real life, I'd have no problem with driving an electric truck so long as the range is fairly comparable to diesel.
TransylScania V8 Nov 10, 2022 @ 8:50am 
I'd buy the dlc but, only if the paint job is the Lion King meme of Elon holding up the Doge dog
Logo Nov 10, 2022 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by FireShorts:
lol I'm 36 so I doubt my "ways" are old or proven. I just think driving an electric truck would be boring because if its anything like the car, theres no real input. No gauge clusters, no feedback from the engine, nothing to monitor. Just turn the truck on, point it in the right direction and keep it on the road. For the record, I am definitely in favor of electric vehicles since fossil fuels are a finite resource and climate change is very much a real thing... I just think it'd be a boring experience to simulate. If I were a truck driver in real life, I'd have no problem with driving an electric truck so long as the range is fairly comparable to diesel.
a misunderstanding. 😅
my thoughts: it's not so different from modern automated diesel trucks, i think. laid back efficient cruising, for me, it's fun. though i enjoy the classic peterbilt 389 like trucks too. different but none the less interesting approaches to trucking.
Elijah1 Nov 10, 2022 @ 12:18pm 
Im not against EV trucks in game infact i think it would add some more variety to the truck list and might be interesting trying to deal with electric instead of diesel
I just dont understand the people that say if an EV ever makes it in game they are uninstalling

Literally just dont buy the truck then and continue on normally?
Its there for people who want it/like it
gworf74 Nov 10, 2022 @ 1:24pm 
Soooo, I'm gonna jump straight in without reading 99% of the comments, basically most of the comments will be the same thing, i.e don't want it, I hate the idea, yuck no way, I'd miss the engine noise, won't be enough places to charge, charging will take too long, diesel forever, I'll never touch the game again if they do etc etc etc.

I wonder if people were the same when the combustion engine was first invented?
You'll never replace the 'orse n cart. My 'orse can pull a carriage with 8 people inside and another 2 on 'orses back, lets see what your 'orseless contraption can do. Roads? hahaha 'orses don't need no roads, we can go where we like.

ICE vehicles will never be fully phased out as there will always be a need for them (just like the 'orses), but EV's will replace their diesel counterparts eventually and it doesn't matter how many of you/us scream, shout and tear up our virtual trucking licenses, there will always, be someone to replace us. Someone who is keen and eager to push EV trucks on to everyone else.

Okay so the big question is are EV trucks better?
500 mile range Tesla Semi is estimated to cost around $180.000
A brand new Western Star 49x will cost up to $240.000

Operational costs
Tesla Semi - $1.26 per mile
Average Diesel Truck - $1.51 per mile

Refueling
Tesla Semi - Fast charge to 70% battery would take up to thirty minutes.
Average truck - around 5 minutes.

Truck stops
Tesla Megachargers - At least ONE, if there's more then details are very scarce
Tesla Superchargers - 1,498 (some of them maybe capable of charging a Tesla Semi, but at a reduced rate of charge)
Truck stops (Petrol, diesel, gasoline whatever) - Over 40,000 in North America.

There are other EV Truck manufacturers out there, I just used Tesla as the obvious example. One thing is for certain though, fossil fuel trucks are going to be around for quite some time, it's going to take decades for EV's to catch up to current ICE trucks.
The 500 mile range of the Tesla Semi is based on ideal road and temperature conditions, maintaining an average speed of 60mph for a set distance etc. Any of those variables change and the operating cost would probably shoot through the roof.

Are EV's better, yes and no. I suppose it depends on what you really want them to do.
If you're gonna haul stuff halfway across America and in a short a time as possible then no, at least not until range and full recharge times match those of ICE trucks.
If you're just gonna be hauling stuff from say depots to more local areas then yes, EV's are 100% better.
Espionage724 Nov 10, 2022 @ 3:52pm 
Originally posted by KingConrail:
Originally posted by meatballs_21:

The same lack of planning would see you running out of diesel in the middle of nowhere because you can’t find a service station.

Except that even in the middle of nowhere, you can find a place to buy diesel fuel of some sort. You can't just snap your jumper cables on the side of a power pole to charge your truck...

Just toss a portable solar panel down :p

Can even maybe do something silly like allowing the in-game walk feature to power a treadmill and work off your energy if you're desperate enough.
Last edited by Espionage724; Nov 10, 2022 @ 3:53pm
MirkoC407 Nov 10, 2022 @ 4:53pm 
Electric drive is okay, trouble is those batteries. You need a long time to charge them, they are heavy (the Tesla is the same weight as a conventional truck but seems to be more of a Euro sleeper size. So hopefully they finally notice that the best electric truck has its power plant on board, i.e. fuel cell. It can be fuelled in the same time as a diesel with either Hydrogen or alcoholic liquids, i.e. methanol or ethanol.
Hydrogen is more efficient and can be generated using solar or wind power. Alcohol can be produced by fermentation of organic waste containing sugar or starch.
It is safer to handle but less efficient becauase energy is needed to split the alcohol and extract the hydrogen. However, they can be used to the same schedules as a diesel truck and should also be of similar weight and therefore probably use even the same cabs and frames. Over here in Europe they are struggling and build only rigids with this technology right now. But a US tractor has frame dimensions not too far off a European rigid anyways, so it should be possible.
Sandhill Nov 10, 2022 @ 7:10pm 
I'd be curious to hear from someone that could speak to driver hours or truck utilization hours in denser populated areas. Decades ago i was a dispatcher for a company that transported all of the company branded and probably 90% of the other groceries, all of the frozen, dairy, meat, and all of the produce for what might have been New Jersey's largest grocery chain.
We had dozens of semi trucks. NONE of them went more than 200 miles in a day. I have no doubt that we were the tip of the iceberg as far as fleets of trucks coming home to a terminal every night. Large operations run fairly local inter and multimodal service for ports and major rail heads for example. There is no doubt that such operations will very quickly convert to electric, the economics demand it.
I wonder not in terms of miles traveled but in terms of hours drivers are behind the wheel or hours trucks are in service what portion of Class 8 use is on daily rounds of a couple of hundred miles and then back to the barn.
Just to pick a number for illustration, If only a third of Class 8 tractor hours a day are in the sort of OTR use that SCS games are geared toward, while it doesn't have that much bearing on the use of electrics in the game, it does say something about the future of electrics, which may be the more common tractor in use within just a few years.
Short term I expect that if it has a sleeper it will be diesel, if not it will be electric. As the manufacture of electrics surpasses that of diesels, the momentum will truly be in place to bring OTR along.
Industry is not much influenced by sentiment, and trucking will abandon diesels without remorse as soon as the dollars say it is time.
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Date Posted: Nov 8, 2022 @ 6:34am
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