😢Toxic fan behavior does NOT help game companies! 😢

[Heatblizzard]

Since I'd be blasted if I actually asked a discussion I would like to remind people to PLEASE not beocme toxic. The SCS Blog especially if you dare say one wrong thing or point out obvious issues you become downvoted to oblivion which causes companies to stagnate and that's never a good think. Cancel Culture all the way around is bad juju for society and asking for trouble..

I see a lot of good requests literally become ignored in favor of things like 'rocks' or new agriculture which isn't itself bad but we all tend to overlook things that would make this truck game even more of a 'sim'.

Someday when people decide enough is enough we will have a decent competitor or two which while may never reach the same level of maps could offer the features missing we all want and that alone would be fresh air.

For me:
I personally would love to have more realistic trucks that actually have to be maintained with the option of easy mode or 'trucker' mode. Easy mode is where we are at now with most of it being automatic and 'trucker' mode you have to actually follow the rules of trucking more or less. IE: Having to check your trailer before departing,wear and tear which would go towards making weigh stations actually useful rather then just a graphical asset.

Your milage may very though:


I'm wondering if SCS is waiting till they complete the USA to make more game engine changes and features to make the game more immersive? Perhaps that makes it easier so they don't have to program those features and changes each time a new map comes out?

[TheAmir259]

I'm not sure when they'll ever get to the last part, but i'd rather have economy rework first, of course, coming before AI rework. Because getting out of your truck is the least of the immersion, i want a game about driving trucks rather than simulating myself walking here and there. My point here being, that sure it sounds fun but that should have a lower priority than the other two i mentioned.

At this point i'm also not sure what they're even doing, ETS2 is kinda dead i'd say, and while they do focus ATS more, the only things they got going are just the long-awaited trucks (that at least have hope compared to ETS2 ones, god knows if they'll ever come) and more map DLCs. Feature-wise, they really have stagnated a lot, but i smell DX12 coming up so that might be the reason why.

[Wolfpig]

Originally posted by kjh86xr:

Since I'd be blasted if I actually asked a discussion I would like to remind people to PLEASE not beocme toxic. The SCS Blog especially if you dare say one wrong thing or point out obvious issues you become downvoted to oblivion which causes companies to stagnate and that's never a good think. Cancel Culture all the way around is bad juju for society and asking for trouble..

The problem will solve itself if you don't post suggestions and stuff not under some blogposts, but in the scs forum which as an designated area for suggestions.

https://forum.scssoft.com/viewforum.php?f=185

[Trucker_71]

Originally posted by kjh86xr:

For me:
I personally would love to have more realistic trucks that actually have to be maintained with the option of easy mode or 'trucker' mode.

I'm wondering if SCS is waiting.......

You're wearing out your keyboard for nothing. This is a Steam forum, not SCS. Steam sells games (thousands), they don't develop them.

[Zilljah]

Originally posted by TheAmir259:

At this point i'm also not sure what they're even doing, ETS2 is kinda dead i'd say, and while they do focus ATS more, the only things they got going are just the long-awaited trucks (that at least have hope compared to ETS2 ones, god knows if they'll ever come) and more map DLCs. Feature-wise, they really have stagnated a lot, but i smell DX12 coming up so that might be the reason why.

At this point, ETS2's map is nearly done. What's left are updates, improvements, adding DLC for things like trailers and accessories, etc. I doubt we'll see much in new trucks, since they already have versions of most now.

ATS, however, has over half the country left to map. They seem to have better relationships with truck manufacturers here; Freightliner/Western Star, Mack, and International have been added over the last few years. Peterbilt hasn't introduced a new truck in years. Kenworth's T680 Next Gen and W990, and Volvo's VNL, have been out for a while but none seem to be on the horizon to be added into the game.

To their credit, SCS has done ongoing updates, revised cities, changed and added roads, etc. And these have been at no cost. It's my opinion that while ETS2 has matured to the point we're only going to see updates and no big DLC's, ATS has room to grow. Look at the anticipation over the Texas DLC. And again, there's still half a country to do.

[AyMazingATS]

Originally posted by Zilljah:

Volvo's VNL, have been out for a while but none seem to be on the horizon to be added into the game.

Not sure why you say this. The new VNL's were just confirmed to be coming to the game.

Visit at the Volvo Facility in the US [blog.scssoft.com]

It says:
We also had the opportunity to capture important reference data for our Vehicles department's next project for American Truck Simulator, an updated version of Volvo Trucks' legendary VNL. Whilst we know many of you will be excited to hear this news (we're too!) please keep in mind that this project is still in the very early stages of development.

[Sandhill]

Originally posted by Zilljah:

At this point, ETS2's map is nearly done. What's left are updates, improvements, adding DLC for things like trailers and accessories, etc.

Not sure why you say this, as SCS has announced a new map DLC for ETS2 and I see no reason to assume that there will not be more to follow...

[Greyhawke]

OP. Respectfully, I couldn't disagree with you more.

It's a matter of priorities. You make a lot of bad assumptions and like to state your opinion as fact but all you are really saying is that many others don't agree with your ideas and you think that, that's something wrong/bad.

It's not. It just means that most people don't want to buy what your trying to sell.

Maybe somebody else will make the sim you want someday; that doesn't make SCS and those who enjoy their products as is somehow wrong/bad. It's just a difference of priorities.

No need to cast any shade.

[BigT57]

The comments area on the SCS blog has always been a wasteland going back to the early days of ETS2. I read the blog posts but even glancing at the comments is a waste of my time.

[Lori37]

Originally posted by Sandhill:

Originally posted by Zilljah:

At this point, ETS2's map is nearly done. What's left are updates, improvements, adding DLC for things like trailers and accessories, etc.

Not sure why you say this, as SCS has announced a new map DLC for ETS2 and I see no reason to assume that there will not be more to follow...

well, I am not so sure there is so much left to add to ETS2 if the West Balkans DLC is in... we're pretty much done by then

[Flyingryan]

Originally posted by kjh86xr:

Since I'd be blasted if I actually asked a discussion I would like to remind people to PLEASE not beocme toxic. The SCS Blog especially if you dare say one wrong thing or point out obvious issues you become downvoted to oblivion which causes companies to stagnate and that's never a good think. Cancel Culture all the way around is bad juju for society and asking for trouble..

I see a lot of good requests literally become ignored in favor of things like 'rocks' or new agriculture which isn't itself bad but we all tend to overlook things that would make this truck game even more of a 'sim'.

Someday when people decide enough is enough we will have a decent competitor or two which while may never reach the same level of maps could offer the features missing we all want and that alone would be fresh air.

For me:
I personally would love to have more realistic trucks that actually have to be maintained with the option of easy mode or 'trucker' mode. Easy mode is where we are at now with most of it being automatic and 'trucker' mode you have to actually follow the rules of trucking more or less. IE: Having to check your trailer before departing,wear and tear which would go towards making weigh stations actually useful rather then just a graphical asset.

Your milage may very though:


I'm wondering if SCS is waiting till they complete the USA to make more game engine changes and features to make the game more immersive? Perhaps that makes it easier so they don't have to program those features and changes each time a new map comes out?

Vr for me is enough lol it's awesome how smoothly it is when driving about

[mojo_musica]

Originally posted by Lori37:

Originally posted by Sandhill:

Not sure why you say this, as SCS has announced a new map DLC for ETS2 and I see no reason to assume that there will not be more to follow...

well, I am not so sure there is so much left to add to ETS2 if the West Balkans DLC is in... we're pretty much done by then

Never looked at a map of Europe, then? Greece, for starters, Northern Norway, Finland, Sweden etc?
Ireland, Iceland, a full update of the UK? Heart of Russia still pending?
No, it's all been covered already.

[redgreen999]

So fans that don't share the OP's opinions are toxic. Interesting.

[Lori37]

Originally posted by mojo_musica:

Originally posted by Lori37:

well, I am not so sure there is so much left to add to ETS2 if the West Balkans DLC is in... we're pretty much done by then

Never looked at a map of Europe, then? Greece, for starters, Northern Norway, Finland, Sweden etc?
Ireland, Iceland, a full update of the UK? Heart of Russia still pending?
No, it's all been covered already.

Heart of Russia is not coming anytime soon, if at all... and The largest part of Scandinavia is already in, not sure what more you want there...

[Oggmeista]

quick question, when was the last time you saw or used a realism economy mod?, i have one installed now but i'ts not 1.45 or even 1.43 , but it makes the earnings completely realistic and not total fantasy as they are by default, so why then does no one create them or even update them?, because the general consensus is that most players look to get mods to make thier experience easier and less taxing, i'm of the opposite ideology but i'm not of the majority
Oh and don't give out the political lecture, it's up to each individual whether they believe what has been termed wokeism or cancel culture is a good thing or not take a look back in history, and personally i didn't like what i saw,, it's not your perogative i'll just add given you decided this was needed, if cc pr or however you want to phrase liberal ideology was so cancerous for 1 of a better expression, why is it i and many others still have issue with total uncensored "free speech" without restriction?, anyway forget that's a topic that isn't going to be answered here or likely anywhere, my point is quit preaching i have my own intelligence to make up my own mind..simple as that

[Ten Bears]

If you really think about when a "toxic community" came about, when was that? Pong? Pacman? Ms. Pacman? Even those 2000's era shooters didn't have a toxic community. But Wow did, not at first... But, after awhile...

Continuous competing against your fellow Azerothian for a piece of gear, had to have a psychological effect, by design, I bet. You have to think about how many were being conditioned, to hate the other one there.

The gaming community took a hard turn to the south after that, by design.

For example, the high prices in a video game are there to simulate the constant struggle with money.

When you're starting out, you save up the x amount for this or that, now you're near broke again. Encouraging the need to get more money which is reinforced by the release of Dopamine after each sought after reward is achieved. Making it a psychological trap for those that are involved.

"As the rewarding experiences continue, the neuronal connections and memory connections associated with the euphoric experiences are strengthened and remodel the connections in the brain. When a video game addict stops gaming, the brain loses the stimuli that releases the same rewarding highs associated with the dopamine rush. The brain also adapts to the high levels of dopamine by developing what is known as tolerance. The brain produces less dopamine and/or reduces the number of dopamine receptors in the reward circuit, which decreases the enjoyment of the drugs and addictive behavior, requiring the addict to increase the drug or behavior to feel good and to feel normal." ~ Dr. Andrew Doan & Brooke Strickland

http://www.hooked-on-games.com/blog/31-dopamine-is-linked-to-video-game-addiction.html

These gaming companies have been consulting psychologists on their boards for a LONG time... To keep you spending your money on them... By design...