Why are american trucks so different from europeans?

[Dobke]

I was wondering why are european trucks designed mostly with a flat front where as american trucks have a bonnet and seems massive. Euro trucks have a place to sleep in the back as I saw in scania and volvo models on ETS 2 but on ATS trucks have a full fledged bedroom on the back.

Another question, in real life, why aren't there much, if any, european trucks in the US? I live in america and I have never seen a scania, I fell in love with the Scania R and S series from ETS and I have never seen them in real life.

Thanks in advance, have a good day.

[Armydude Trucking]

Maybe, boys and girls, you're not old enough to know this but the USA used to have plenty of "cab-over" trucks on the road. Now, not so much. Most of the company trucks are the conventional style. FYI

[Sandhill]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από dfrag:

Maybe, boys and girls, you're not old enough to know this but the USA used to have plenty of "cab-over" trucks on the road. Now, not so much. Most of the company trucks are the conventional style. FYI

And for the changes in laws mentioned above. Duh.

[Alabama]

Sandhill. I was in a bad mood writing that. So i am sure he meant no offence.
So apology's sent.

[$2 Hero]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από J4CKI3:

America is just physically bigger than Europe, with bigger, wider roads allowing for bigger vehicles. Europe's tight roads require more compact trucks with the cab over the engine. American style trucks are generally considered to be more comfortable because they have much more space on the inside, safer because they have a hood, and more stable because of their longer wheelbases. European trucks also have advantages in that they are more maneuverable and lighter. As for why European trucks are not found in the US, I think it is because the market for a class-6 Euro style truck isn't big enough in America. However, in the medium duty segment there is the Kenworth K270, which is a rebadged DAF truck.

It has nothing to do with a "small market". It's literally the law. Same reason you cannot buy diesel cars in America that are sold in Europe. In America we get the unleaded versions. It's basically a rich man's scam/law, crony capitalism/government sponsored monopolies.

[LarryA]

H.P. does "Not" prove its the most powerfull truck in the world. whats the Torque Curve? Base this on RL. 1693 T.A. Cat 425 H.P. tuned to 475 H.P. will pull with a 3406 E model tuned to 650 H.P.. The torque is set at lower RPMs 1500_1800 RPMs with variable timing compared to a 1693 T.A. Mechanica 1750_1900 RPM. The 93 has a flatter torque curve compared to a 3406E.
Edit: "Not" just about H.P.... Have to consider Rear end ratios as well. Transmission set ups as well. 10 speed verses a Dana 6 & 4 Double Under with 4:56 Differentials verses a 10 Speed or 15 with higher Differential ratios.
Eaton 18 speed or a 6 speed with a Eaton 4 speed brownie. 4:56 Diffs. HH set up. Wheel base minimum 245 inches minimum.

Variable timing Cat 3406 Series they had to sacrafice the torque curves compared to a 1693 T.A,. Fuel mileage averages. 1693 T.A. 4.5 MPG compared to a 3406 series variable timing. 7.5 MPG. 3406 Cat was designed after the 3408. Driven by increased fuel prices and EPA Standards.

Case 150 Steam Tractor produced in 1905 will produce around 145 H.P. at 5000 Ft Lbs of torque.. 9 built in 1905. It would out pull "Any" semi tractor combination. even with a pusher.

Have A Great Day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROv7wKFe5BM

[BJ72]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από LarryA:

H.P. does "Not" prove its the most powerfull truck in the world. whats the Torque Curve? Base this on RL. 1693 T.A. Cat 425 H.P. tuned to 475 H.P. will pull with a 3406 E model tuned to 650 H.P.. The torque is set at lower RPMs 1500_1800 RPMs with variable timing compared to a 1693 T.A. Mechanica 1750_1900 RPM. The 93 has a flatter torque curve compared to a 3406E.
Edit: "Not" just about H.P.... Have to consider Rear end ratios as well. Transmission set ups as well. 10 speed verses a Dana 6 & 4 Double Under with 4:56 Differentials verses a 10 Speed or 15 with higher Differential ratios.
Eaton 18 speed or a 6 speed with a Eaton 4 speed brownie. 4:56 Diffs. HH set up. Wheel base minimum 245 inches minimum.

Variable timing Cat 3406 Series they had to sacrafice the torque curves compared to a 1693 T.A,. Fuel mileage averages. 1693 T.A. 4.5 MPG compared to a 3406 series variable timing. 7.5 MPG. 3406 Cat was designed after the 3408. Driven by increased fuel prices and EPA Standards.

Case 150 Steam Tractor produced in 1905 will produce around 145 H.P. at 5000 Ft Lbs of torque.. 9 built in 1905. It would out pull "Any" semi tractor combination. even with a pusher.

Have A Great Day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROv7wKFe5BM

The new 770 hp (566kW) engine produces 3700 Nm (2729 ft lb) of torque between 1000 and 1450 rpm, an increase of 40 hp and 200 Nm on Scania's previous top power engine. This figure of 770 also leapfrogs the previous most powerful production truck engine, currently available from Volvo

Thats the specs for the new Scania

[garyh2462]

We sit on top of our engines, to save space and length. In the states, they have the wonderful open roads so can put their engines out in front for the whole world to see. I drove a half size Kenworth round the UK for a theatre company, it was a nightmare getting in and out of places. Can you imagine trying to negotiate Cornwall's country roads in a Peterbuilt? It's also as stated by Wolgang.

[LarryA]

BJ72

Watched a few Dyno runs on YT for the 770 HP from Volvo. Its amazing how new technology has evolved over the years. compared to 15_55 years ago.

Have A Great Day

[ThunderDownUnder]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από TW:

Because Euro don't drive trucks. They drive big cars.

I'd actually argue that US trucks are more like a conventional car. Engine's out in front and you don't sit as high in US trucks as you do in the euros.

[Sky_Goddess]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Alabama:

TW that is so arrogant.
As said above we have the most powerful truck's, after seeing that Aussie road train i am not so sure. Also our dirver are more probably more skillful due to the much tighter place's
we have to get into. a lot of our road's are the same route, that has been there a few hundred year's.Most of our building's are also older than the USA.
So unless what you said was a joke. you realy are quite ignorant.

I second that. Arrogant and ignorant or perhaps ... a little jealousy?

[anomaly.va]

Posts here would suggest that length restrictions were what forced COEs to be phased out in the US. In fact, it was the other way around... COEs were phased out through relaxing such restrictions, especially since trailers were getting longer and longer in this time. At one time, a COE pulling a 36-footer was considered 'barely legal'. 36-footers gave way to 40-footers, 40-footers gave way to 45-footers, then 45 to 48s, then 48s to 53s. So it was loosening these length restrictions that ultimately phased out COEs in the US. Not to mention they were much safer -- COEs made it much easier to have a serious slip-fall injury exiting or entering the cab, and greatly increased the risk of injury or death to the driver in a crash.

As an asthmatic who struggles with irreversible breathing issues, I, for one, am glad the emissions laws in the U.S. are what they are. Yes, they are a PITA at times, but I thank my stars I did not grow up in or live in Europe, I hear asthmatics there have it much worse than we do in the U.S. -- because of the lax emissions laws there.

Especially the UK - in which the consumer motor market is largely diesel-powered -- and I suspect likely the reason for the crappy air quality there. Don't challenge me on this -- I know people living in the UK with asthma that say it is absolutely horrible there but they can't leave. Look up a phenomena called 'Thunder Fever' if you don't believe me. We don't have that here in the U.S. I suspect excessive diesel emissions for far too long have a lot to do with that.

[Humpfester]

Here's the short answer, there are plenty of vids here to answer a lot of questions about trucking here and over the pond. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGK5FDAyaog&ab_channel=Jack%27sChromeShop